Amy Winehouse dead...

[mudskipper]

If you're going to argue that some people have more of a propensity to addiction and so deserve our sympathy, logically you have to say the same about some people's propensity to criminality.
Maybe its true and we should be sympathetic to repeat burglars, rapists and mass murderers.
The poor diddums can't help themselves.

It sounds like you're suffering from compassion deficit disorder. You have my sympathy...

[Troll]

No, as he wasn't here illegally.

So its on a par with the 80's shooting of Stephen Waldorf?

[minestrone]

If you're going to argue that some people have more of a propensity to addiction and so deserve our sympathy, logically you have to say the same about some people's propensity to criminality.
Maybe its true and we should be sympathetic to repeat burglars, rapists and mass murderers.
The poor diddums can't help themselves.

So we are in a position based on your position.

[minestrone]

[northernladyuk]

If you're going to argue that some people have more of a propensity to addiction and so deserve our sympathy, logically you have to say the same about some people's propensity to criminality.
Maybe its true and we should be sympathetic to repeat burglars, rapists and mass murderers.
The poor diddums can't help themselves.

Criminality is broadly a social construct. The same is not true of addiction. You need to work harder at this comparison.

[minestrone]

Criminality is broadly a social construct. The same is not true of addiction. You need to work harder at this comparison.

Is that ******* right Greg?

[northernladyuk]

Is that ******* right Greg?

Having to drink on your own again tonight?

[xoggoth]

Criminality is certainly linked to factors which may be outside the criminal's control. The straight path may be much harder for some than it is for those who were lucky enough to have a good upbringing free of major trauma. Brain damage is also a factor in some criminals. However, one has to be practical. If someone is a major risk to others there is no choice but to lock them up.

Interesting read - the biography of Rose West. Ghastly person it's true but hard not to feel sorry for her. If we went through what she did as a child would any of us be any better?