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IT people and their lack of imagination

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    #31
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    One thing I've noticed in 20 years in computing in a range of industries and on this forum is the absolute literalness of most IT people.
    Obviously I'm talking about technical people (support people/developers mainly). There seems to be a complete lack of imagination in most IT types, a singular inability to imagine anything they have not experienced personally and allied with this a complete lack of ability to see the bigger picture.
    Many IT people see their skills (say C# programming or DBA) as defining who they are.
    And so they remain at a low level for the rest of their lives and allow the chancers and bulltulipters (PMs, BAs etc) to exploit them and cock things up.

    Why is this? Education? Or is it inevitable that a mindset that deals with detail has no time for the bigger picture? Is there a level of autism involved?

    I have long been fascinated by this issue.
    Here are a couple of reasons: Risk aversion and capabilities.

    The 80/20 rule at work. 80% of IT people are doing modern blue collar work really - and aren't going to be leading anyone for long due to natural selection. 20%, or less, are doing hard, highly skilled work that needs a decent education and set of abilities plus experience. Of those 20%, some can and do move up the line - the remainder have a high risk aversion that is necessary to operate well in a lot of IT jobs such as programming. This risk aversion prevents them from putting themselves out there.

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      #32
      SasGuru, perhaps this is more your level.

      Etch A Sketch

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        #33
        Originally posted by aussielong View Post

        Here are a couple of reasons: Risk aversion and capabilities.

        The 80/20 rule at work. 80% of IT people are doing modern blue collar work really - and aren't going to be leading anyone for long due to natural selection. 20%, or less, are doing hard, highly skilled work that needs a decent education and set of abilities plus experience. Of those 20%, some can and do move up the line - the remainder have a high risk aversion that is necessary to operate well in a lot of IT jobs such as programming. This risk aversion prevents them from putting themselves out there.
        Quite. There are very few, if any, of this class on this forum.
        And as regards the OP's comment. Yes my experience is limited to that top 20% that make the strategic difference and produce competitve advantage.
        I'm not really interested in the commodity skills that comprise the other 80%.
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #34
          Originally posted by sasguru View Post
          Yes my experience is limited to that top 20% that make the strategic difference



          “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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            #35
            Just curious, what do you do for a living SB?
            You told us you don't code.
            You're obviously not very bright.
            Are you some kind of 1st line support monkey?
            Hard Brexit now!
            #prayfornodeal

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              #36
              Originally posted by sasguru View Post
              Just curious, what do you do for a living SB?
              You told us you don't code.
              You're obviously not very bright.
              Are you some kind of 1st line support monkey?
              Nothing that could be explained in any understandable way, to a dullard like you.

              HTH

              “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                #37
                Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                Nothing that could be explained in any understandable way, to a dullard like you.

                HTH

                I'm quite sure it's something that doesn't require much brains, since you don't have any.
                But do try and realise that not everyone is like you.

                HTH
                Hard Brexit now!
                #prayfornodeal

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                  I'm quite sure it's something that doesn't require much brains
                  You looking for a job then?

                  “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                    Sounds like trendy arty-farty bolloxs to me. The best programmers I know (well I have to hire them) have PhDs in mathematics.
                    I bet they have beards and wear glasses, hairy jumpers and sandals with socks on as well
                    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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