Scottish newspaper identifies injunction footballer

[moorfield]

There is no such thing as free speech anywhere - everything we say carries a cost - just that most of the time, that cost is relatively cheap.

WHS. Lars von Trier tried a bit of improv free speech in Cannes earlier this week and it's cost him his next few film royalties. Probably.

[AtW]

WHS. Lars von Trier tried a bit of improv free speech in Cannes earlier this week and it's cost him his next few film royalties. Probably.

Free speech does not mean everyone will continue to deal with you.

What it means is that Govt can't put you in jail even if you speak against current policy or the Govt itself - Carter is free to roam the world and express his views, he just can't work in some places - same goes for that idiot director who thinks nazies are cool - he has the right to say it (not in Germany I think for a good reason), but that does not mean people have to like him or deal with him - he is not going to jail though (not in France at least).

[centurian]

That's boll0x - they have free speech enshrined in constitution and also guns in hands of people to defend their rights.

Precisely my point - they think they have it because it is written in their constitution.

That didn't help anyone of a left-leaning political disposition in the 50's. The slightest word that could be construed as communist in nature could (and in many cases did) have them arrested. Where was the constitution then?

The cost of speech in the US is certainly "lower" than many other countries - but it isn't "free" - never has been - and never will be - anywhere.

[centurian]

Free speech does not mean everyone will continue to deal with you.

What it means is that Govt can't put you in jail even if you speak against current policy or the Govt itself.

And that is certainly one legal definition of free speech. But there will be many others that believe free speech means you can say what you like - without incurring a "cost"

Speaking your mind can certainly be costly, even in the US - perhaps not to your liberty, but there are many other ways in which your life/career can be ruined.

[AtW]

The cost of speech in the US is certainly "lower" than many other countries - but it isn't "free" - never has been - and never will be - anywhere.

That's semantics - all things are relative and in USA freedom of speech is far more real than in this country, partly because children in school actually get to learn their proper rights.

[d000hg]

That's boll0x - they have free speech enshrined in constitution and also guns in hands of people to defend their rights.

Try exercising your right to bear arms and free speech near the White House.

[ChrisPackit]

Works for me in Bolton....

It's not unusual to find birds with a 'trio' of tits in Bolton, which men can feel with their 6 fingered hands...

Chris (Wigan)

[dang65]

The thing that's a bit complicated with this super-injunction thing is that the newspapers seem to think that because whoever-it-is has been named repeatedly on Twitter, that means that there is a revolution in progress in favour of newspapers being allowed to print anything they like.

I kind of suspect that if you thanked the majority of Twitter users for their support for the Sun, Daily Mail and News Of The World, they'd go WTF?? Keep my name out of that story!

The Twitter users are just getting off on the simplest and most puerile act of rebellion since throwing their dinner on the floor as a toddler. It would have been a lot more effective if no one on Twitter had made any reference to this at all. Just completely ignored it. It's the disgraceful media which need to reform themselves and get back to some actual news reporting. Everyone joining in with this bland tittle-tattle is just encouraging them. It's nothing to do with free speech.

[cailin maith]

Thing is, no one gives a tulip about the fact that a (nother!) footballer couldn't keep his cock in his pants. It's the fact that it's turned into such a media storm and the fact that he's making a bigger tit of himself by still trying to hide when everyone knows, is what is making it all the more giossip-worthy.

[Paddy]

This thread has gone on for far too long, let’s change the subject. How many rock gigs do you go to last year and did you use an Irish budjet airline to get there?