Originally posted by eternalnomad
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DNA Evidence - rights and wrongs
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I seem to recall that Maradonna used to have a fake willy filled with a friends wee so that he would be able to pass a drugs test.
Nomad, can I suggest that you have a hollow tooth fitted and filled with Chicos spit. Then when the Police ask you for a sample, hey presto, Chico takes the rap.
How long will it be before a micarriage occurs because someone elses cells were swabbed from a gob. Dont snog yer gf just before she goes out on a job
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Originally posted by eternalnomadMan jailed for Ripper deception
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4828828.stm
"His identity was discovered 25 years later when his DNA, taken after a minor offence, was matched against saliva on an envelope sent to detectives. "
I dont want to get into a debate about the stupidty of what this fella did (arguably indirectly costing the lives of an extra couple of women through his actions) but what does concern me is the use of DNA evidence the coppers took after a minor offence.
It cannot be right that DNA samples are taken after a minor offence and stored in a database to be used forever more.
They will be taking DNA samples at birth next.
Also as someone else mentioned the blood test at birth would provide the mechanism for doing so, & it’s only a matter of time before they ask for a DNA sample for the new ID card so I think there will be no getting away from itComment
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Originally posted by ChurchillLooks like they failed miserably then.
I think the failure rests with our parents and our own generation for becoming incredibly passive to the increasing powers of the state.Comment
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Originally posted by maximusThere is quite a pervasive argument for doing this - within a century you would have a complete profile of the population, if everyone was recorded would you object so strongly...Comment
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The main problem with DNA evidence at the moment is there is too much confidence in it. Samples can easily be planted at the scene of a crime, samples can be swapped or tampered with in the lab or digital records compromised. Besides the fact that when samples have been degraded by environmental factors the expert witnesses often over-state the probability of a match.
This development is an open door to corruption.Comment
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Interestingly (or not) I witnessed a car versus bicycles accident this morning. (My perception was the car thought they could use the cycle lane to overtake on the inside, bad news for the two cyclists in front of me.)
Anyways, by doing the boy-scout thing, I ended up sprayed liberally with blood, which I have now washed off my jacket.
But a thought went through my head whilst reading this thread: even though my jacket cleaned off well enough so you couldn't see the blood I had better throw it away and buy a new one, 'cause you just never know, one day I may well be a suspect for something and my jacket will be presented as evidence ... "yes, there was a blood residue, and it had been washed off." with a knowing leer to the jury.Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
threadeds website, and here's my blog.Comment
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From twowolves comment, I think this is not just a possibility but a certainty, example is a case up in Scotland to do with fingerprints: Shirley McKieInsanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
threadeds website, and here's my blog.Comment
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Originally posted by eternalnomadActually, I dont think they did Churchill.
I think the failure rests with our parents and our own generation for becoming incredibly passive to the increasing powers of the state.
When was serfdom abolished in this country?
Do you think we're living in a democracy?Comment
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Originally posted by eternalnomadYes I do, the reason being that by extension they would attempt to link certain genes or gene clusters with a higher probability of becoming "undesirable" citizens.Comment
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