James Bulger’s mother: Unmask my son's killers

[rhubarb]

For a ten year old child's action, I would have to place a huge amount of blame on the parents.

You only only ask the question Churchill, but I ask you, do you state that you would take no responsibility for your 10 year old's actions(if you had one) that you had raised or do you believe that it's purely nature, not nuture?

Not sure about that. I have 3 kids, two of which are boys.
My oldest son - basically a clone of me, seems happiest when at home, messing around on his ps3, pc, watching tv (yes I'm a lazy slob).

But my other son, I have no clue where he came from! If we let him, he would spend the whole day taking apart things in the house to see how they work, he goes fishing, goes to scouts, always out with a huge group of friends. He couldn't be more different to me, my wife and our other son.

So, nature I assume!
But then with my first son, if I'd made the effort to get off my arse and do stuff with him, would he now be a totally different character ?
No idea.

[minestrone]

Much of the reasoning behind our justice system is to have a controlled and evidence based decision making transparent process.

It stops thicko ex squaddies who think they have a grasp on the system because their dad was a copper running around with burning torches.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Much of the reasoning behind our justice system is to have a controlled and evidence based decision making transparent process.

It stops thicko ex squaddies who think they have a grasp on the system because their dad was a copper running around with burning torches.

FFS you just can't leave it alone can you?

All of you - take your pathetic personal posturing and shove it - stick to the subject.

[MarillionFan]

FFS you just can't leave it alone can you?

All of you - take your pathetic personal posturing and shove it - stick to the subject.

WPBS. Let's see if we can stay on subject . Easy thread to
troll on this, don't see the
point.

[Pondlife]

Not sure about that. I have 3 kids, two of which are boys.
My oldest son - basically a clone of me, seems happiest when at home, messing around on his ps3, pc, watching tv (yes I'm a lazy slob).

But my other son, I have no clue where he came from! If we let him, he would spend the whole day taking apart things in the house to see how they work, he goes fishing, goes to scouts, always out with a huge group of friends. He couldn't be more different to me, my wife and our other son.

So, nature I assume!
But then with my first son, if I'd made the effort to get off my arse and do stuff with him, would he now be a totally different character ?
No idea.

Nature may cover introverted/extroverted personality but moral guidance has to come from somewhere. This isn't about liking sports vs books IMHO.

[minestrone]

FFS you just can't leave it alone can you?

All of you - take your pathetic personal posturing and shove it - stick to the subject.

It is a resonable and fair point. Justice should be taken out of the hands of "throw away the key" types.

[MarillionFan]

So if you don't blame the parents. Because they're feckless, then it's the fault of society then? In the past adults could cuff a child behind the ear or neighbours would have a word?

If not them, then the failure of the police to ensure that children do not break the law? Teachers then. They should teach them wrong or right? Right?

No it's the fault of social services then. They're the catch all. It's their fault.

Eventually after all that, it's their faults. It's not nuture, it's nature. Evil little bastards. Hang them!

For that last argument. I would ask 'who's the man or woman who could put a rope around a 10 year old childs neck'?

[EternalOptimist]

There's a school full of teachers gone on strike today, because of abuse and threats from these 'little angels'

[minestrone]

One of the things I wondered at the weekend when reading the Sunday Times and the latest Bulger story was if the constant, 10 year long, 'rehabilitation' made Venables more inclined towards pedophilia. He was a test case and every social worker and quack would have been in there just never making him never forget.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

It is a resonable and fair point. Justice should be taken out of the hands of "throw away the key" types.

I agree with that - but you didn't leave at that did you? Don't you dare suggest that you weren't taking a pop at one or two people on here - because we all know full well what you meant by your "squaddie" reference - and it's a great credit to them that they haven't risen to it. (NB I won't go beyond this because if I do I'll be guilty of the thing I complain of)