Ever been on a demonstration?

[MarillionFan]

Actualy I have an innate dislike of busy places and crowds. I'd hate to be in the middle of a march.

[Bagpuss]

Seriously the poll tax riots were nothing to do with the introduction of a new tax.

It was purely to give all the socialist scum who were voted out only a few years earlier the chance to try and de-rail the tories attempts to change the country.

That particular demo/riot was just populated by rent a thug students and other tax dodgers who were shipped in from all over the country on the promise of 10 B&H and a large bottle of cider.

1/ Poll Tax march was in 1990, 11 years after she was voted in
2/ Many of the protesters were tax paying families who were being hit with a large increase in their tax.
3/ Phasing out the University grant, having a council bill but no house, not exactly setting the young up to prosper was it?

You are showing yourself to be a bit of a tit who uses wikipedia to research events that happened while he was in his nappy. So maybe best you shouldn't say anymore. Oh too late you got all the milk snatcher stuff wrong too.

Doh!

[AtW]

3/ Phasing out the University grant, having a council bill but no house, not exactly setting the young up to prosper was it?

And how would offering free money to study, no council tax, free housing, free this and free that helps push youngsters to the idea they need to EARN money to pay for all this?

At the end of the day someone is always paying for others who don't pay - poll tax is fair, and maybe it was introduced without staging but the concept is hell a lot of fairer than current council tax, which I must say at very high levels.

[doodab]

And how would offering free money to study, no council tax, free housing, free this and free that helps push youngsters to the idea they need to EARN money to pay for all this?

At the end of the day someone is always paying for others who don't pay - poll tax is fair, and maybe it was introduced without staging but the concept is hell a lot of fairer than current council tax, which I must say at very high levels.

But is it fair to have a fair distribution of costs without commensurate equalisation of shares in the proceeds of collective endeavour? I think not.

It makes the utmost sense for society to bear the costs of educating the young, because everybody benefits from a well educated populace and everybody suffers by it's absence. It's myopic to consider only the benefit to the individuals concerned.

[AtW]

It makes the utmost sense for society to bear the costs of educating the young

Yes, but only those who either have talents, or want to work hard to learn - you can't have 100% in high education, that's very high cost and waste of money, there has to be barrier that students have to work hard to beat - in USA families save money for their childrens' future education, it is totally unreasonable to expect to study in Uni for free with a grant for everyone who fancies it.

[Old Greg]

Where is the 'savagely attacked by th TSG after they have removed numbers to avoid identification' option?

[EternalOptimist]

Me relaxing at Stonehenge, Spring Equinox Sunrise, 1988:

which one is you ?
theres blooming hundreds in that piccie