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Some Perspective On The Japan Earthquake

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    #21
    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
    If we burnt coal Japan would be flooded by rising sea water level
    Not with the mini ice age approaching, remember you heard it on here first...

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      #22
      Originally posted by AtW View Post
      I'd say the nuclear industry is done for the next decade or two - that short assuming nuclear situation in Japan will be brought quickly under control.

      What I think we will find out soon that those heroes that stayed at that reactor got more or less fatal dozes of radiation whilst trying to cool it down - more or less same thing was done in Soviet Union, only people were lied to about dangers, but how many people in the west would risk their lifes in such situation?!?!! Not with current Health and Safety laws as they stand now
      Only because of knee-jerk reactions in the media and people with an ideological aversion to nuclear power because of their association with nuclear weapons (idiots). Britain should get on with building more reactors now.

      What I think we will find is the even if the fuel rods do melt, they will be contained within the containment vessel. The 50 operators left at the plant will suffer no more or no less incidence of cancer than the rest of the population.

      The reactors (which were at the end of their lives anyway) are knackered and will require a few zeroes to cleanup. The fact that they shutdown properly and didn't explode (Chernobyl like) is a testament to the nuclear industry safety and engineering standards.

      To compare the very professional behaviour of the Japanese operators to the idiots who covered up and caused Chernobyl to explode is naive at best.
      ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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        #23
        Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
        To compare the very professional behaviour of the Japanese operators to the idiots who covered up and caused Chernobyl to explode is naive at best.
        Japanese are very professional indeed and I think they have managed (with what no doubt will be cost of their own lifes) avert much worse disaster than Chernobyl.

        Nuclear is nowhere as cheap to generate power, constant terrorism risk, hard to deal with waste, and high insurance after this accident.

        Bring on any power generation even if it's "dirty" - coal or gas plant can blow up and it won't contaminate half the country for centuries.

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          #24
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          Japanese are very professional indeed and I think they have managed (with what no doubt will be cost of their own lifes) avert much worse disaster than Chernobyl.

          Nuclear is nowhere as cheap to generate power, constant terrorism risk, hard to deal with waste, and high insurance after this accident.

          Bring on any power generation even if it's "dirty" - coal or gas plant can blow up and it won't contaminate half the country for centuries.
          Interesting reading for you

          http://www.raeng.org.uk/news/publica...Commentary.pdf
          ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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            #25
            Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
            Nuclear just below coal in their example, and higher than clean gas fired.

            Set zero taxes on North Sea exploration, give Norway big stake on the condition of supplying enough gas to keep UK independent from foreign supplies and the problem is sorted - no need to pay for French nuclear technologies (which I give them they managed to develop and keep over years).

            Nuclear is only cheap before something seriously wrong happens.

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              #26
              Spent fuel rods at reactors #4, #5 & #6 are playing up now.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                Spent fuel rods at reactors #4, #5 & #6 are playing up now.
                That's perfectly safe and you'll get a 0.1% discount on your next months energy bill for the "inconvinience" caused.

                Nuclear power is perfectly safe you know.

                HTH

                Moscow Moron

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                  #28
                  Due to the Luddite nature of the public and the irrational mindset of linking nuclear weapons to nuclear power, Britain will return to the dark ages.

                  HTH

                  Alexei the Winker
                  ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
                    Due to the Luddite nature of the public and the irrational mindset of linking nuclear weapons to nuclear power, Britain will return to the dark ages.
                    Something I recall from one of the documentaries on nuclear power in the UK recently shown on BBC 4 was that the cold war introduced that association. Nuclear power in the UK was held back by endless public inquiries; in contrast France just ploughed on and built them.
                    Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
                      Due to the Luddite nature of the public and the irrational mindset of linking nuclear weapons to nuclear power, Britain will return to the dark ages.

                      HTH

                      Alexei the Winker
                      Still on the bright side, the beeb might show repeats of Edge of Darkness, a good watch despite the lefty politics
                      Doing the needful since 1827

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