Mid East Crisis

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

That's 'eretz Yisrael' which the Israelis are are hoping to capture when the messiah arrives. But try looking at historical facts as they are.

Wow your above post really shocks even me. The diagram is really scary from a Palestinian point of view. The sh1t media here constantly talks about Israel's existence coming under threat, but really the Palestinians are the one who are literally disappearing off the map. Amazing how the media can spin something around to be completely the opposite to what it really is.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

There are some who would say that Judaism is running our societies.

I wouldn't say Judaism is running societies as much as the Jews are running society. When it comes to the media, banking, politics, intelligence and forwards planning (50-100 years ahead) then there is nobody who comes within 1000 miles of them. From actors to CEO's to Politicians i.e. the most influencial posts then they have it all hence the BBC, CNN, Fox, Al-Jazeera etc propaganda. And before you tell me Al-Jazeera is anti, have a deeper think....

[Incognito]

Wow your above post really shocks even me. The diagram is really scary from a Palestinian point of view. The sh1t media here constantly talks about Israel's existence coming under threat, but really the Palestinians are the one who are literally disappearing off the map. Amazing how the media can spin something around to be completely the opposite to what it really is.

Listen it's a farce, there was no Palestine, Syria, Saudi, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, UAE, etc. They were simply tribal Bedouin that wandered the land. You want to blame someone then look to yourself and the life you live thanks to the acts of those who went before you.

Dissolution of the Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was the British, French and Russians that created all the trouble by carving up the Middle East in lines that were beneficial to them.

Sykes

This is why you have the riots in Bahrain, the suicide bombings in Iraq, the conflict in Yemen, the Lebanese civil wars. Muslim sects do not like each other, you think Northern Ireland is bad? The only thing they all agree on is that the Jews are worse. They are built on hatred. It is what their religion promotes, the religion does not tolerate others no matter how much the loony left would wish it did (Note: I'm talking about the religion not the individual).

The Jews did not 'steal' anyone's land.

[Old Greg]

I wouldn't say Judaism is running societies as much as the Jews are running society. When it comes to the media, banking, politics, intelligence and forwards planning (50-100 years ahead) then there is nobody who comes within 1000 miles of them. From actors to CEO's to Politicians i.e. the most influencial posts then they have it all hence the BBC, CNN, Fox, Al-Jazeera etc propaganda. And before you tell me Al-Jazeera is anti, have a deeper think....

It's like reading a Nick Griffin pamphlet about 'Mindbenders'.

[amcdonald]

It's like reading a Nick Griffin pamphlet about 'Mindbenders'.

Are they gay hypnotists ?

[Old Greg]

Listen it's a farce, there was no Palestine, Syria, Saudi, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, UAE, etc. They were simply tribal Bedouin that wandered the land.

Why don't you create an argument around facts, rather than fiction? There was no Syria, but there we more than tribal Bedouin that wandered the land. Who was living in Damascus at the time? And Jerusalem?

The Jews did not 'steal' anyone's land.

Agree with you on this one. However, the Israelis are certainly engaged in land theft.

[Incognito]

That's 'eretz Yisrael' which the Israelis are are hoping to capture when the messiah arrives. But try looking at historical facts as they are.

Very good, now answer this, what events were the precursor to the downsize in Palestinian territory in those pictures? So why between '47 and '49 did they lose territory and then again post '67 what happened then?

I'll give you a clue, one side didn't want to stick to the fairest proposal:

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's another clue, it wasn't the Israelis.

[Incognito]

Why don't you create an argument around facts, rather than fiction? There was no Syria, but there we more than tribal Bedouin that wandered the land. Who was living in Damascus at the time? And Jerusalem?

You're being a bit pedantic. I didn't really mean they were all out living in tents and herding goats. I'm referring to their sense of belonging and their identity.

Agree with you on this one. However, the Israelis are certainly engaged in land theft.

I wouldn't call it land theft having been to Jerusalem and seen it in action. They certainly are trying to extend their territory, but they are normally engaged in offering absolutely stupid amounts of money (funded by expat Jews) to Palestinians for their houses and then shipping an orthodox family in.

Illegal settlements are different because technically the state does not approve of it, however will still offer state protection otherwise the settlers would just be strung up.

[Spacecadet]

Very good, now answer this, what events were the precursor to the downsize in Palestinian territory in those pictures? So why between '47 and '49 did they lose territory and then again post '67 what happened then?

I'll give you a clue, one side didn't want to stick to the fairest proposal:

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's another clue, it wasn't the Israelis.

One side hadn't agreed to the proposal in the first place so it's not as if they had anything to stick to.
Even in your own link it details how the British (who occupied the area at the time) were unhappy at the lack of agreement and fairness and pulled out without giving control to either party.

[Churchill]

You're being a bit pedantic. I didn't really mean they were all out living in tents and herding goats. I'm referring to their sense of belonging and their identity.



I wouldn't call it land theft having been to Jerusalem and seen it in action. They certainly are trying to extend their territory, but they are normally engaged in offering absolutely stupid amounts of money (funded by expat Jews) to Palestinians for their houses and then shipping an orthodox family in.

Illegal settlements are different because technically the state does not approve of it, however will still offer state protection otherwise the settlers would just be strung up.

You're not the only one who's been to Jerusalem. I've worked there. Twice.