Inequality of Pay. Women vs Men

[threaded]

I don't dodge the CSA thank you very much. As previously pointed out, if anything the CSA doges me.

[Mordac]

Sorry, I meant salad dodger.

[threaded]

Still better looking and much fitter than you, you fat fsck.

[Mordac]

Oh I seriously doubt that, big fella.

[threaded]

Go on post a picture of yourself then, (and not the one with you in the gingham dress this time please), and we'll have the congregation decide...

[Mordac]

Go on post a picture of yourself then, (and not the one with you in the gingham dress this time please), and we'll have the congregation decide...

Please don't mention the gingham dress again. I still require occasional therapy.
Photos will have to wait (I'm working away all week) but I'm sure MarillionFan - who knows me - will be happy to play impartial judge on this one.

[threaded]

Would that be the Thai-tat salesman? Not the greatest choice to make such prognostications methinks ...

[Mordac]

That'll be the one. I cannot disagree with you, but since we used to work together he can at least testify to my relative lack of salad-dodging. Whether he chooses to is a completely different matter.

[Denny]

....but I think you'll find that the report doesn't actually say this. It says the opposite - that women do usually get paid the same for the same job.

the problem is that women don't generally get the same jobs. Men tend to get full-time jobs lasting long periods of time that build into senior management roles. Women tend to get part-time jobs that fill in between childcare and don't build into anything very much.

The one good thing about the report is that it didn't recommend equal pay audits. These are usually a complete waste of time and suck up tons of effort from the employer that could be better spent running the business.

I think this report was meant to highlight that women are still being paid less per hour or day for doing exactly the same role as their male counterparts even if they have the same experience, qualifications, ability and potential.

That is clearly wrong and against the law.

I do think that women who are careerists shouldn't necessarily have an organisation bend over backwards to accommodate time off to mind kids whilst still expecting to advance alongside their non-encumbered counterparts though whether they are men or women. Clearly the best careers should be reserved for those who can put in the necessary hours.

The real problem is that men have never and still aren't taking on their full share of childcare responsibilities which is still seen as the woman's main responsibility. Even in households where both partners work in well paid jobs they are much more likely to hire a nanny and housekeeper than divide these chores between them. Otherwise, the woman will end up doing both as well as her job which the man just doing the occasional hoovering and wiping the dishes. Of course, there are househusbands too who do stay at home and mind the kids whilst their female partner works but they are still rare.

[DodgyAgent]

I think this report was meant to highlight that women are still being paid less per hour or day for doing exactly the same role as their male counterparts even if they have the same experience, qualifications, ability and potential.

That is clearly wrong and against the law.

I do think that women who are careerists shouldn't necessarily have an organisation bend over backwards to accommodate time off to mind kids whilst still expecting to advance alongside their non-encumbered counterparts though whether they are men or women. Clearly the best careers should be reserved for those who can put in the necessary hours.

The real problem is that men have never and still aren't taking on their full share of childcare responsibilities which is still seen as the woman's main responsibility. Even in households where both partners work in well paid jobs they are much more likely to hire a nanny and housekeeper than divide these chores between them. Otherwise, the woman will end up doing both as well as her job which the man just doing the occasional hoovering and wiping the dishes. Of course, there are househusbands too who do stay at home and mind the kids whilst their female partner works but they are still rare.

Remarkably observant for someone who still lives with his mum