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    #51
    Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
    Rumours are that the debt which China has bought will be repaid in Gold. As its the only thing of value left in Europe.
    There's lots of valuable stuff in Europe that the Chinese new-rich would just love to get their hands on. Art, vineyards, architecture etc. Trouble is, do Europeans really want to have to sell all the works of Michelangelo, Van Gogh, Rembrandt, Picasso, Dali, Miro, etc etc to Chinese mutli-gazillionaires or ship Venice brick by brick to Shanghai? I don't think so. At least I hope not.

    In fact, Europe is almost incalculably rich if you look at the products of European culture and the possessions handed down through the centuries; trouble is, we need cash. Right now Europe looks a bit like some drunken old aristocrat sitting on a huge pile of as yet unproductive wealth while maxing out all his credit cards at Majestic wines and a rather seedy casino.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #52
      Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View Post
      That remark was for OG rather than you Atw - I am quite aware of the TimeLines of the West and Eastern Roman Empires !

      Post Constantine the last 300 years of the Western Empire was that of a steady shambolic decline - sounds like fun ?
      That's a bit of a slip from Cicero to Constantine time-wise. But even looking at the West post the battle of Adrianople A.D. 378 (which pretty much lit the fuse for the end in the West), it can be seen not as the fall of an Empire, but the transition of Roman Christian civilisation from a single Empire to separate kingdoms ruled by 'barbarians' who were Christian and Romanised - Goths, Vandals etc. This is certainly the experience in Western continental Europe. It was the fate of what is now England to be invaded by non-Romansied barbarians, hence our differences from Western Europe in terms of common law vs Roman law etc.

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        #53
        Originally posted by lilelvis2000 View Post
        Rumours are that the debt which China has bought will be repaid in Gold. As its the only thing of value left in Europe.
        That and sasguru of course.

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          #54
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          That and sasguru of course.
          Well I hope he has bought up the image rights for models of shortarsed tubby haemaphrodites with large foreheads. Boomed if he has!!
          “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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            #55
            Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
            Well I hope he has bought up the image rights for models of shortarsed tubby haemaphrodites with large foreheads. Boomed if he has!!
            Is a haemaphrodite a shemale with a vampire fetish?
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #56
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              Is a haemaphrodite a shemale with a vampire fetish?
              Yes. And a virtual motorbike fetish to boot!

              HTH

              “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                #57
                Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                Yes. And a virtual motorbike fetish to boot!
                Don't forget eco shed...

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                  #58
                  and on top of all that blabber you are also blessed with inflation of 4-5% compared to Germany which had 1.1% in 2010.

                  Does that make you feel competitive and optimistic?

                  I recommend you guys start demanding that your contracts are paid in Euros or another more stable currency.
                  "Condoms should come with a free pack of earplugs."

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ThomasSoerensen View Post

                    I recommend you guys start demanding that your contracts are paid in Euros or another more stable currency.
                    You can scoff, but the Eurozone isn't out of the woods yet. Perhaps we'll be better off in the long run.
                    Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
                      You can scoff, but the Eurozone isn't out of the woods yet. Perhaps we'll be better off in the long run.
                      I agree, that is why I am on my way out of the Euro. I think it will be weakened quite a bit in the short to medium term.
                      "Condoms should come with a free pack of earplugs."

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