This should raise the blood pressure

[thunderlizard]

Are you talking about the UK Human Rights Act 1998, or one you've just made up in your head?

because he now had two children since being freed from prison, he had a right to a family life under Article 8 of the Human Rights Act.

-and unless you want to deport his 2 British children to Iraq too, that means here.

[AtW]

Are you talking about the UK Human Rights Act 1998, or one you've just made up in your head? -and unless you want to deport his 2 British children to Iraq too, that means here.

That's cracking.

Are you away that there is a law in UK that if you (British Citizen) marry someone from abroad but they don't speak English well enough to get visa, then your wife won't be allowed to be in the UK. Solution compatible with Human Rights - husband can go life with wife in her country while she learns English!

He is a criminal that should be deported even if he had 20 children in this country, in fact I'd say it is for the childrens benefit to ensure he is barred from this country once and for all.

What you do in such cases is that you exercise your executive powers and deport the ******. Then let him sue you from Iraq or any other country if he wishes to do so, no legal aid in that.

It is crazy really that such serious crimes don't result in automatic deportation - try doing something like this in USA and you probably won't leave prison, and even if you do that won't be long before you leave US territory for good.

[gingerjedi]

Are you talking about the UK Human Rights Act 1998, or one you've just made up in your head?


-and unless you want to deport his 2 British children to Iraq too, that means here.

You make it sound so open and shut, The UK Border Agency fought long and hard to try and get him deported.

His children and their mother are British so no need to send them to Iraq.

[TimberWolf]

The moral of the story is, start banging out kids on arrival.

[shaunbhoy]

Are you talking about the UK Human Rights Act 1998, or one you've just made up in your head?


-and unless you want to deport his 2 British children to Iraq too, that means here.

Can you just elaborate on what we should be doing to ensure that the girl's family have their Human Rights upheld, or are you just playing devil's advocate?

[lightng]

Misleading title

I was expecting to see a picture of a busty nurse in stockings

[MarillionFan]

Surely though, with a democratically elected government in Iraq and with peace keepers there should be no reason not to send him back.

[shaunbhoy]

Surely though, with a democratically elected government in Iraq and with peace keepers there should be no reason not to send him back.

Good point well made MF!

[thunderlizard]

Can you just elaborate on what we should be doing to ensure that the girl's family have their Human Rights upheld, or are you just playing devil's advocate?

I think you're trying to treat human rights as a see-saw, where the victim's rights go up as the criminal's go down. Of course there's nothing that can be done now to help the family in this very sad time. Their girl has died. You could deport the killer or execute him, and it still wouldn't bring the girl back. What do you think would help?

[AtW]

What do you think would help?

Putting him in jail forever, or failing that deporting would help a lot.

Not to bring poor girl back but to at least show that there is justice out there - right now justice is severely damaged and all for what - an illegal criminal who is responsible for death of a young girl and he does not seem to have any remorse at all?

He should have been in jail anyway - he got no human right to say - I can't be in jail I want to be with my family, once in a while during visits maybe - if family wishes so they can visit him in Iraq using British Embassy - assuming they pay all costs of going there obviously.