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    #11
    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
    The UK is addicted to mass immigration.
    Yes, we need all these non-English speaking people who'll spend their lives on benefits to "look after us when we're old".

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      #12
      Nice idea in principle Chef but I suggest you check out UK National Statistics data on unemployment, welfare, recourse to social housing, prison population and long term health issues before seriously proposing that migrants are going to pick up the bill for our pensions. Some are an asset sure, but there are also major groups who are simply adding enormously to the future problems.
      bloggoth

      If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
      John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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        #13
        Originally posted by chef View Post
        In 20 years time when the baby boomers are all retiring you'll be very appreciative of the migrants and the Uk will actively encourage them as I guess there will not be enough workers in most of the 3rd world to support the cost of the ever growing number of healthy retired elderly v's the small number of 1970's - 1990's generation who will be required via high inflation and taxes in order to support them..
        At Paddy’s BTL houses on both sides of said BTL are full of Polish, all of them unemployed and on housing benefit. How is that helping? Indian subcontinent emigrants have already brought in their extended families including grandmothers, great-grandmothers aunts etc. All whom are being supported by the state. How is that helping? If HMG kept their fecking hands of my money and not spend it on social engineering then I would not need help in my later years. I have always leaned toward liberalism and left wing politics but Labour has F&cked up badly and I’ll vote BNP if I get the chance. Not because I like the party, but because the other parties are so far remote from the real on the ground problems of immigration.
        "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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          #14
          The real question is

          1) Do these companies need cheap immigrant workers to avoid closing?

          or

          2) Do they need cheap immigrant workers so costs can be kept down and shareholders can increase their dividends?

          If the former then we are a bit fooked if the later than lets stop bitching at the government and lets look at the greedy shortsighted twunts whose sole interest is their own back pockets. Our 'Captains' of industry need to take a bit more responsiblity for the long term growth of the UK.

          Been said before

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            #15
            Re your first possibility.

            If the businesses that need cheaper migrants are marginal businesses that only survive by using them, what happens to these workers if they fail?

            We have seen the answer to that question before, in Lancashire and the West Midlands in particular, when the potteries and textiles industries brought in many migrants to support them in what (in hindsight anyway) was a totally doomed effort to survive. Now we have a lot of people on benefits or doing fairly low paid jobs.

            The government should be asking searching questions about the businesses as well as the workers and looking at the entitlements to bring in families or stay on after a job is finished.
            Last edited by xoggoth; 22 November 2010, 11:27.
            bloggoth

            If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
            John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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