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    #11
    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    No, it was an irresponsibly affordable, unfeasibly fast motorbike designed by a psychopath and marketed to 17 year olds as a method of Darwinian selection. Those who survived were either;
    - incredibly talented motorcyclists or
    - provided by their genes with a remarkably durable skeleton

    You see the trouble was that up to about 5 or 6 thousand rpm, it felt like a slow, quite civilised motorbike. Above that all hell broke loose and it turned into Beelzebub's rocketship. Now, if you went into a bend in, say, third gear, and then accelerated out, you would often hit the so-called 'power band' (the point where the motor's power suddenly rises toward a peak) before straightening the bike, and the back would simply break out; alternatively, if it was a warm day with lots of grip the front wheel would rise, giving no steering, and you'd hit a tree.

    The chaps at Yamaha sorted the problem on later models with a so-called power-valve (YPVS), which adjusted the airflow into the cylinders to ensure a more gentle and predictable supply of power; obviously, that meant anyone with a YPVS model was a bit of a wimp.

    2 questions:

    1. You could afford to run a motorbike at school?
    2. Your parents let you?
    Hard Brexit now!
    #prayfornodeal

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      #12
      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
      2 questions:

      1. You could afford to run a motorbike at school?
      Yep, by about 1988 the first 'Elsies' were about 300 quid a go; no guarantees that the frame was still straight.

      And yes, my parents let me. My father has a penchant for anything that goes fast on land or in the air, once earnt his living jumping out of aeroplanes, and couldn't really be such a hypocrite to stop me doing something exciting.
      Last edited by Mich the Tester; 26 October 2010, 13:59.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #13
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        No, it was an irresponsibly affordable, unfeasibly fast motorbike designed by a psychopath and marketed to 17 year olds as a method of Darwinian selection. Those who survived were either;
        - incredibly talented motorcyclists or
        - provided by their genes with a remarkably durable skeleton

        You see the trouble was that up to about 5 or 6 thousand rpm, it felt like a slow, quite civilised motorbike. Above that all hell broke loose and it turned into Beelzebub's rocketship. Now, if you went into a bend in, say, third gear, and then accelerated out, you would often hit the so-called 'power band' (the point where the motor's power suddenly rises toward a peak) before straightening the bike, and the back would simply break out; alternatively, if it was a warm day with lots of grip the front wheel would rise, giving no steering, and you'd hit a tree.

        The chaps at Yamaha sorted the problem on later models with a so-called power-valve (YPVS), which adjusted the airflow into the cylinders to ensure a more gentle and predictable supply of power; obviously, that meant anyone with a YPVS model was a bit of a wimp.
        I managed to survive the RD250LC while still learning, although I knew a few who did some time in traction because of them.

        Early 80's motorcycles could be great. Fantastic engine technology (especially 2-strokes) but never the tyres/frame/steering/suspension to match making them prone to being fast as **** but having a habit of behaving rather strangely and throwing you down the road.
        When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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          #14
          Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
          I managed to survive the RD250LC while still learning, although I knew a few who did some time in traction because of them.

          Early 80's motorcycles could be great. Fantastic engine technology (especially 2-strokes) but never the tyres/frame/steering/suspension to match making them prone to being fast as **** but having a habit of behaving rather strangely and throwing you down the road.
          There was a chap at the local bikers pub who had an old Kawasaki 750 Mach IV. That thing really was mental. Bikes have all become a bit sensible now. Sure, it's really impressive if a Hayabusa can go 200 mph, but the brakes and tires are probably rated to 250, AND it stops in a straight line.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #15
            Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
            No, it was an irresponsibly affordable, unfeasibly fast motorbike designed by a psychopath and marketed to 17 year olds as a method of Darwinian selection. Those who survived were either;
            - incredibly talented motorcyclists or
            - provided by their genes with a remarkably durable skeleton

            You see the trouble was that up to about 5 or 6 thousand rpm, it felt like a slow, quite civilised motorbike. Above that all hell broke loose and it turned into Beelzebub's rocketship. Now, if you went into a bend in, say, third gear, and then accelerated out, you would often hit the so-called 'power band' (the point where the motor's power suddenly rises toward a peak) before straightening the bike, and the back would simply break out; alternatively, if it was a warm day with lots of grip the front wheel would rise, giving no steering, and you'd hit a tree.

            The chaps at Yamaha sorted the problem on later models with a so-called power-valve (YPVS), which adjusted the airflow into the cylinders to ensure a more gentle and predictable supply of power; obviously, that meant anyone with a YPVS model was a bit of a wimp.
            I know a guy who had an RD350 followed by an RG500 GAMMA and AFAIK he is still alive today, probably a unique feat in the motorcycling world.
            Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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              #16
              The Young Ones
              Spitting Image

              "Hooooooold aaaa chicken in the air, put deckchair up your nose.."
              "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                #17
                Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
                I know a guy who had an RD350 followed by an RG500 GAMMA and AFAIK he is still alive today, probably a unique feat in the motorcycling world.
                I remember him; how's Old Stumpy keeping these days?
                And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                  #18
                  Breakdancing
                  "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                    Sure, it's really impressive if a Hayabusa can go 200 mph, but the brakes and tires are probably rated to 250, AND it stops in a straight line.
                    Indeed the Busa feels really planted and safe, even in the wet.
                    I'm glad I didn't get into bikes that early - I would have probably killed myself given the shennanigans I got up to in my 20s. From the sound of it bikes had improved by then.
                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                      Is that a synth?
                      And yes 80s clubs were quite dire ...
                      Motorbike and pop was "commercialised" way before Cowell et al

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