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    #11
    Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
    How did it manage to damage bomb-making equipment that inspectors have never managed to find?
    Because this isn't bomb making equipment and no-one has claimed it was. It is equipment for producing enriched Uranium. That enriched uranium can then be used in a civilian reactor for research or power production, or further enriched to a weapons grade material. At no point is any of the affected equipment actually producing weapons.

    Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
    Why is there no international outrage at this assault on a sovereign nation's infrastructure?
    Because currently no-one can prove who did it. There are suspicions but that's all.
    Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post

    Iran is desperate to end its dependency upon oil hence its investment in nuclear energy. Why is the USA & Israel allowed to prevent that?
    Can you prove that the US and Israel did it? Without evidence of their involvement there are no grounds for action against them.

    Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
    PS it ain't a virus unless it propagates. It is just industrial sabotage.
    Stuxnet has been found in the wild and there are known to be thousands of infected systems worldwide, this is how it was first identified. It will infect any Siemens SCADA system but will only carry out it's intended actions when a particular type of micro controller is found in that system.

    Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
    Personally, I think the USA is still desperate for a war with Iran, but cannot find an excuse to start one so is trying to provoke Iran into starting one.

    An attack on their nuclear power industry is a legitimate reason for Iran to go to a war footing.

    Be afraid. The USA is still run by pro-Israelis + oil company interests + fundamental Baptist Christian rednecks.
    "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
      How did it manage to damage bomb-making equipment that inspectors have never managed to find?

      Why is there no international outrage at this assault on a sovereign nation's infrastructure?

      Iran is desperate to end its dependency upon oil hence its investment in nuclear energy. Why is the USA & Israel allowed to prevent that?

      PS it ain't a virus unless it propagates. It is just industrial sabotage.

      Personally, I think the USA is still desperate for a war with Iran, but cannot find an excuse to start one so is trying to provoke Iran into starting one.

      An attack on their nuclear power industry is a legitimate reason for Iran to go to a war footing.

      Be afraid. The USA is still run by pro-Israelis + oil company interests + fundamental Baptist Christian rednecks.
      As I understand it, the weapons inspectors were in Iraq, not Iran, unless they let them in there as well.

      And also as I understand it, it is indeed a virus that propogates through laptops and stuff, but only damages the target systems.

      As for the rest, most if not all of Iran's neighbours in the middle east see Iran as a much greater threat than the USA or Israel, and supported (in some cases demanded) action to damage her nuclear bomb program. Using a virus was preferable to bombing the facilities.

      So rather than international outrage, I'd guess there have been silent cheers all round.

      Perhaps it only delays the day when a rogue state sets off one of these, but it gives England another chance to win the world cup.
      Last edited by Doggy Styles; 18 January 2011, 11:56.

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        #13
        I think the USA have come clean, although I'm not sure why.

        Many countries are doing this kind of thing, whether it be industrial or political motives, causing damage or just stealing information.

        Thanks for the explanation DaveB, I'm not clued up on uranium enrichment.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post

          Thanks for the explanation DaveB, I'm not clued up on uranium enrichment.
          Neither was I before this, but we run a lot of Siemens SCADA systems so it was a case of finding out exactly what it was supposed to be doing and if we needed to worry about it
          "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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