Lowering salaries - it's the end of IT as we know it (and I feel fine)

[gingerjedi]

If you think you can make a long-term profitable living with average code monkey skills, yes, I'd say you're thick.
Thick because you're ignoring globalisation, the government's policy of allowing cheap labour through ICT, the fact that any job that requires you sitting at a desk and not interacting with live people can be done by a cleverer person on the other side of the world and the fact that major corps don't see IT development as a strategic policy, rightly or wrongly.

If given the above you don't adapt and moan about falling rates and disappearance of jobs you are by definition, thick, and hence deserve your fate.

HTH, but IDI.

If everyone could adapt so easily then your 'in-demand-super-duper-niche-skills' wouldn't be so niche now would they.

Stop being such a pompous *****.

[sasguru]

If everyone could adapt so easily then your 'in-demand-super-duper-niche-skills' wouldn't be so niche now would they..

Quite. The world isn't fair. Some can adapt better than others.
But in the UK one has all the tools to adapt: the Open University, evening classes etc.
There really is no excuse.

Stop being such a pompous *****.

I decsribed the world as it is. If you want to call that pompous you need a dictionary.

HTH

[alreadypacked]

Quite. The world isn't fair. Some can adapt better than others.
But in the UK one has all the tools to adapt: the Open University, evening classes etc.There really is no excuse.

Going permi and getting trained up!

[doodab]

Salaries can and do fall for "rare" skills. Sometimes they just become obsolete. Sometimes this occurs precisely because companies adopt technologies that are easier and cheaper to get the staff for.

BTW, one can adapt and thrive and still moan about having to do so.

[Mich the Tester]

If everyone could adapt so easily then your 'in-demand-super-duper-niche-skills' wouldn't be so niche now would they.

Stop being such a pompous *****.

I think the point is that the niche skills of today will become commoditized when people realise there's money to be made from them, so somehow you have to stay ahead of or at least at the front of the game.

Methodical testing used to be a niche skill where you could earn a tulipload of dosh without being particularly bright; now it's a commodity and system tests are often done in low wage countries. The testers who do well now are those who can critically analyse a business process or set of processes, regardless of whether the system is ready or not, and advise customers on business risks and possible measures, as well as advising project managers on how to gain acceptance for their system, or program managers on how to avoid or mitigate project risks. You can also be expected to help clients conform to quality requirements of their clients, which can be quite complex when a clientco is supplying to aerospace, defense or automotive industries. This all involves skills and knowledge that go far beyond the specification of test cases, which should basically be a given if you hire a tester.

I get CVs from unemployed testers every day, but at the same time it's difficult to find the testers that my client really needs; the unemployed ones are the guys who can do no more than write test scripts and execute them (badly). Bob can do that for a quarter of the price (badly).

[SupremeSpod]

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[Mich the Tester]

I'm going working for accenture in India.

I'd sooner top myself. Or flip burgers.

[doodab]

I'd sooner top myself. Or flip burgers.

Ooh I don't know about that. They probably pay quite a good wage by local standards, you could have curry whenever you wanted, and from what I've seen of Accenture's outsourced infrastructure services you would have plenty of opportunity to improve things.

[SupremeSpod]

I'd sooner top myself. Or flip burgers.

I'd rather wash Elephants in the Ganges.

I was being ironic.

[Mich the Tester]

Ooh I don't know about that. They probably pay quite a good wage by local standards, you could have curry whenever you wanted, and from what I've seen of Accenture's outsourced infrastructure services you would have plenty of opportunity to improve things.

Go on. Be a twat.