New look at City bonuses

[sasguru]

What I don't get is why owners of Barclays and other banking shares allow their management to pocket vast majority of profits.

Well it's good to know you respond to being called cretin. Subconsciously you must know its true.

[Bunk]

So why Barclays share are so artificially high?

If you think they're artificially high why don't you short them, you dirty spekulant?

[sasguru]

If you think they're artificially high why don't you short them, you dirty spekulant?

You're introducing logic into this? You might blow one of his Soviet circuits.

[doodab]

Banks aren't the highest yielding shares at the moment, this is true, but they have done quite well over the last few years. They also tend to make money during hard times, unlike most other companies.

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They are also fairly safe, ironically, as recent events have proven that governments aren't going to let the big ones fail.

[AtW]

You still don't get that the ******* MARKET SETS VALUE.
YOU ARE NOT THE ******* MARKET. MORON.

Dirty spekulants more like it

[AtW]

They also tend to make money during hard times, unlike most other

Profits? Have you factored in BONUSES which are COSTS ffs, profit is what's left after that and paid to investors via dividends or retained in company. They don't pay much because (in my view) they take cash (real profit) as bonuses and fake paper profits books on speculative worthless assets are "retained" in the company, that's why dividends are feck all - there is simply no more money left in the pot to pay actual owners.

It's not like banks are technology companies that can massively increase share value overnight - the growth in value of shares is modest at best and it goes in cycles (look at BARC shares in the last 10 years).

[sasguru]

Profits? Have you factored in BONUSES which are COSTS ffs, profit is what's left after that and paid to investors via dividends or retained in company. They don't pay much because (in my view) they take cash (real profit) as bonuses and fake paper profits books on speculative worthless assets are "retained" in the company, that's why dividends are feck all - there is simply no more money left in the pot to pay actual owners.

It's not like banks are technology companies that can massively increase share value overnight - the growth in value of shares is modest at best and it goes in cycles (look at BARC shares in the last 10 years).

Tell you what AtW - you leave the bank shares well alone then, eh?
Plough your share of the £100K you've made over 6 years back into your company. Make sure to leave some money over for your rent and pot noodles, you hear.

[doodab]

RBS were paying very healthy divvies up until the crisis, so were Lloyds, Barclays & HSBC weren't far behind.

I think we can expect to see 5%+ out of the latter two (who didn't take money from the state) again in the next year or two.

[AtW]

I think we can expect to see 5%+ out of the latter two (who didn't take money from the state) again in the next year or two.

Yes, 5% that's massive

I was getting 5%+ on my savings account in "good times" (before QE and negative interest rates) ffs - why take extra risk with those shares then?

[sasguru]

[QUOTE=AtW;1179480]Yes, 5% that's massive

I was getting 5%+ on my savings account in "good times" (before QE and negative interest rates) ffs - why take extra risk with those shares then?[/QUOTE]


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