Cable: we will respect Indian's ICT demands

[TimberWolf]

And for those frustrated at how hard programming can be and bunk off to play a game of Tetris, that's hard too*:

Easy reading version: BBC NEWS | Technology | The trouble with Tetris

http://www.cs.carleton.edu/faculty/d...tris-short.pdf

The game was first implemented by a Russian called Alexey.

[AtW]

The game was first implemented by a Russian called Alexey.

Naturally

[TimberWolf]

Naturally

You must have come across some hard problems in what you're doing?

I once did a "real world" job for a local furniture maker. Almost everything the flipper wanted was NP-Complete. Oh, can you create a tool path around that (offset curve) and minimise the cutting time and distance (travelling salesman), oh and minimise waste (forget what that one's called). And so it went on.

[TimberWolf]

In Cameron's motley entourage. Presumably many of these are those that want to outsource or want to bring in more ICTs? And presumably government public sector projects will also be outsourced.


Ministers

David Cameron, prime minister; William Hague, foreign secretary; George Osborne, chancellor; Vince Cable, business secretary; Jeremy Hunt, culture secretary; David Willetts, universities minister; Gregory Barker, energy minister

Business

3i: Michael Queen, chief executive; Arup: Philip Dilley, global chairman; Agusta Westland: Graham Cole, managing director; Aviva: Andrew Moss, chief executive; Benoy: Graham Cartledge, chairman; Berg: Matt Webb, managing director; BAE Systems: Richard Olver, chairman; Balfour Beatty: Ian Tyler, chief executive; Barclays Group: John Varley, chief executive; B&Q and Kingfisher: Ian Cheshire, chief executive; CBI: Richard Lambert, director general; Clifford Chance: Stuart Popham, senior partner; Climate Change Capital: James Cameron, vice chairman; Deutsche Bank: Anshu Jain, chief executive; Freshminds: Caroline Plumb, chief executive; Green Investment Bank Commission: Bob Wigley, chairman and Yell group chairman; JCB: Philip Bouverat, director; Johnson Matthey: Sir John Banham, chairman; Institute of Directors: Miles Templeman, director general; KPMG: John Griffith-Jones, chairman; London Stock Exchange: Xavier Rolet, chief executive; Mott McDonald: Keith Howells, managing director; News Corporation: Matthew Anderson, group director; Nuclear Industry Association: Keith Parker, chief executive; Penguin Books: John Makinson, chairman and chief executive; picoChip: Nigel Toon, president and chief executive; Promethean: Graham Howe, chairman; Rolls-Royce: Miles Cowdry, director of global corporate development; SABMiller: Graham Mackay, chief executive; Solar Century: Jeremy Leggett, chairman; Smiths Detection: Stephen Phipson, group managing director; Standard Chartered: Peter Sands, group chief executive; Standard Life: Gerry Grimstone, chairman; UK India Business Council: Lord Bilimoria, president and Patricia Hewitt, chair; UK-India Round Table: Chris Patten; Mama Group: Stephen Budd, managing director; Vodafone: Vittorio Colao, chief executive; Xchanging: David Andrews, chief executive

Culture and sports

British Council: Vernon Ellis, chairman; British Library: Dame Lynne Brindley, chief executive; British Museum: Neil MacGregor, director; Victoria & Albert Museum: Sir Mark Jones, director; Premier League: Richard Scudamore, chief executive; London Organising Committee of Olympic Games: Lord Coe, chairman; Commonwealth Games England: Dame Kelly Holmes, president; Sir Steve Redgrave, Olympian.

Science and education

Cambridge University: Prof Sir Leszek Borysiewicz, chief executive, Medical Research Council and vice chancellor designate; Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council: Prof Robin Grimes, adviser civil nuclear research; Imperial College: Sir Keith O'Nions FRS, rector; Open University: Martin Bean, vice chancellor; University of Exeter: Prof Steve Smith, vice chancellor and president Universities UK; Wellcome Trust: Sir Mark Walport, director

Parliament

All-party parliamentary group: Jo Johnson MP

Local government

Royal borough of Windsor and Maidenhead: Liam Maxwell, councillor; Sutton council: Sean Brennan, leader of the council, chair of the executive; Upper Eden Community Plan: Alex Birtles, chairman of Upper Eden Futures

Technology

Harry Metcalfe, entrepreneur and web consultant; Edmund von der Burg, independent internet developer; Tim Green, independent website developer; David McCandless, independent author, creative director and information designer

David Cameron's visit to India: full list of delegates from Britain | World news | The Guardian

[sasguru]

Actually the vast majority of programming problems are so hard that not only have they not been solved, but it's not even know how hard they are. Hard problems far outnumber solved problems, with the former set being almost infinite. And some programming problems are known to be so hard that it is known that they will never be solved.

Pedantic again. Yes anyone who has done CS 101 knows that.
I'm talking about programming problems in your average business app which are feasible.

[sasguru]

So, in conclusion sas is working on trivial programming problems.

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I don't do programming for a living.
However I'm not surprised that you believe that everyone in the world does programming. And in your world everyone is a virgin and lives in a bedsit

[SupremeSpod]

Pedantic again. Yes anyone who has done CS 101 knows that.
I'm talking out of my arse.

ftfy.

You couldn't hack it as a developer, no shame in that. Stick to something you're good at. In your case, something at which you're less crap.

Spod - In "Couldn't give a damn if it helps or not" mode!

[TimberWolf]

Pedantic again. Yes anyone who has done CS 101 knows that.
I'm talking about programming problems in your average business app which are feasible.

With those, it's not unusual that few lines of code might be the result of spending a lot of time figuring out what the flip it is doings or supposed to be doings, especially with old code doings, and speaking with users and others and receiving conflicting answers and requirements. Not at all easy doings sometimes.

[SupremeSpod]

With those, it's not unusual that few lines of code might be the result of spending a lot of time figuring out what the flip it is doings or supposed to be doings, especially with old code doings, and speaking with users and others and receiving conflicting answers and requirements. Not at all easy doings sometimes.

Have you ever stood facing the wind and had a piss? Because that's pretty close to what you're doing now.

[TimberWolf]

Have you ever stood facing the wind and had a piss? Because that's pretty close to what you're doing now.

I know, but I'm not putting much effort into it.