They Won't Win

[Lucifer Box]

They will have achieved "something" if, as I fear, the government uses this as an excuse to restrict our civil liberties even further.

[John Galt]

Snaw you are sooooo naive. You cannot understand their actions because you have never been brainwashed in the way that they have. They believe, as do most terrorists, that they are fighting a war and they will do anything to win it. This is not a win in the conventional sense as you and I would understand it but for any terrorist causing chaos in a major city is a result, getting a full days news is a result, killing those they see as the enemy is a result etc etc

[snaw]

Well JG, I'm a lot of things but naive isn't one of them. I don't accept your definition of win - cause by that it implies we have lost - which you seem to be conceding but speaking for myself I don't feel that any more now than I felt they'd won when I lived in NY.

[Lucifer Box]

Well JG, I'm a lot of things but naive isn't one of them. I don't accept your definition of win - cause by that it implies we have lost - which you seem to be conceding but speaking for myself I don't feel that any more now than I felt they'd won when I lived in NY.

The thing is, Snaw, the terrorists don't care whether you think they've "won", only that they themselves, and their compatriots across the globe, see this as a victory.

You should know that errorism is not a zero sum game, i.e. it isn't I win and you lose.

[John Galt]

There will always be terrorists Snaw because there are always extremists. From this perspective you can never win a 'war on terror'. Until our nation is run by Al Qaeda we will not have been beaten in the sense that you mean but, today, they had the upper hand for want of a better expression. The Dunkirk spirit is admirable but we are currently 'fighting' a spectre that has no regard for human life - least of all its own. We have been admitting people into the UK, not sending back those who were here illegally and funding those who were, the controls are inadequate and the human rights mob make matters worse. What has happened today was IMHO inevitable

[snaw]

Well the thing is LB that goes both way's - and I couldn't give a sh!T what the terrorists think cause the only thing that matters is what we think.

Attack me all you want for thinking that, that's your own personal call, doesn't change my mind one bit. If that's naive that's fine by me.

[theMustachioMarvel]

New excuse to...

Roll out ID cards...

[WageSlave]

Snaw, you're a cartoon caricature of a sad little comprehensive oik who has good reason to be thankful things are the way they are, so it's no great surprise you deny reality.

Unfortunately there's precious little TB around today to keep you occupied.

[AtW]

Sadly the only people who will win are those who take advatange of these atrocities to cut down on legitimate citizens freedoms. ID card now surely will be fasttracked, even though I am pretty sure that those who perpetrated these acts had proper cover just like those on 9/11.

[snaw]

Snaw, you're a cartoon caricature of a sad little comprehensive oik who has good reason to be thankful things are the way they are, so it's no great surprise you deny reality.

Apart from that making absolutely no sense whatsoever, how about you make up your own insults, instead of aping your betters.

Comprehensive little oik I may be, but I'll always be your daddy, and you'll always be my bitch in any debate ...