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Hands up who though Cameron would cut ICTs?

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    #11
    Originally posted by suityou01 View Post
    We're a bit like a small yappie dog on the world stage. It started with Thatcher and the miners. We even import our electricity and gas ffs
    Ah yes...Margaret Hilda Thatcher...did more damage to British Industry than the Luftwaffe...

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      #12
      Originally posted by crimdon View Post
      Ah yes...Margaret Hilda Thatcher...did more damage to British Industry than the Luftwaffe...but less than the bleeding Unions!!
      FTFY

      “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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        #13
        Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
        Come to think of it, Cameron is a bit like a small yappie dog, only marginally less annoying in a different way than Brown.

        Why the hell do British politicians of every stripe feel they must grovel and fawn to all and sundry, and jump at the sight of their own shadows?
        In return for all those 'opportunities' what will negotiate David Cameron with? Your job and mine.

        Neville Chamberlain to David Cameron. 70 years of inbred Public schoolboys running the place.
        The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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          #14
          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          That article says nothing regarding migrant workers. The only worker they mention is the one in the picture who is in india.

          It does mention that resctictions on UK companies is to be lifted. What we wanted, right?

          It is mostly us selling them arms from what I can see.
          Thats also the way I read this article. Its got nothing to do with the coalition government siding with ICT users and abusers, its all about getting UK exports to India in place and understanding their market properly. All good if you ask me.

          Although I can't help thinking that what they really want is to deregulate their banking system, and to hand out credit cards to whoever earns a wage in India, thus creating a spending-spree boom followed by an Indian financial crisis leaving them in decades of debt

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            #15
            It's the Quid Pro Quo that is the problem.

            For all the opening up of their markets, the Indians will demand that there will be no constraints on ours.

            Those signing these deals will only see their own future prospects, such as Hewitt with BT Tech Mahindra, Kelly with HSBC, or even Steven 'I'm a cab for hire' Byers (but that didn't work out so well). None of them, of any party, see any further than the next election or their prospects when out of power.
            How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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              #16
              I don't see the work coming back - ever. There will be a few high profile insourcing stories for small sections of work that have gone badly wrong but the rest will stay off-shore and more will follow it - including the architects, PM's, Service Manager stuff.
              The reason is cost and because IT is considered a non-core activity for most businesses.
              Currently it is in a transition phase and there are many problems but they will get better and better at doing the work and eventually everything that can go, will.
              Anyone considering IT as a career from a standing start now is in for considerable disapointment. The pool of work will continue to shrink and will be fought over by an increasingly desperate number of experienced IT staff, contract and Perm. Rates will plunge accordingly and new entrants to the market will find it very difficult to gain a foothold.
              Start saving and scrambling for a Plan B - you will need both.

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                #17
                Frankly I'm not bothered about India.

                There's going to be a revolution there pretty soon and the whole country will turn to rattulip.

                Any company or organisation that outsources its IT to that region deserves all it gets.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
                  Frankly I'm not bothered about India.

                  There's going to be a revolution there pretty soon and the whole country will turn to rattulip.

                  Any company or organisation that outsources its IT to that region deserves all it gets.
                  This is another thing that has puzzled me. The risk assessment as part of the due diligence prior to outsourcing such vital functions to that part of the world surely must have flagged the instability internally and in the region as a major issue. However, risk / reward judgements have been a bit off in the business world of late (some say for a long time).
                  How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HairyArsedBloke View Post
                    However, risk / reward judgements have been a bit off in the business world of late (some say for a long time).
                    In recent years businesses have shown that they are as prone to mania has people are.

                    It's not quite the revolution but my lot today were stressing how their business continuity planning meant that the general strike in parts of India today, including where they have an operations centre, would have a minimal effect.

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                      #20
                      ICT question in the Immigration Cap Consultation Survey

                      ICTs are not covered in the interim cap but the home office survey has a question asking if they should be:
                      UK Border Agency | Limits on non-EU economic migration (June to September 2010)

                      It can't hurt to fill it in and the government might be compelled to do something if there is an overwhelming call for ICTs to be capped.

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