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[cnch]

The code of ethics should have kicked in before applying. If you are at offer stage then the ethical question goes out of the window and think of the £££

Er, if it is your own poll then you can decide what options to offer.

FWIW, if it is legal then I will do it.

..... but given the fact that I cannot read minds... the options would be infinite.

[Drewster]

.........I have to say that now I would never consider a contract for any establishment that engages in the practice of animal testing no matter what the reason because I no longer think the end justifies the means under any circumstances.........

My father was a diabetic... for many years he was kept alive because he could inject insulin obtained from pigs...

I could mention that all drugs that save 000s of human lives were and are "tested" on animals....

My view on ends justifying the means is different from yours...... I hope you or your family never need any drugs etc.

[Drewster]

The code of ethics should have kicked in before applying. If you are at offer stage then the ethical question goes out of the window and think of the £££

WHS

[lukemg]

I was asked the same question in an AZ interview, I advised that 'for the right rate I will hold them down for you', I got the job...
Ethically, there is a big difference between animal work done to develop safe medecine targetting illnesses affecting millions and that done to get a new shampoo - no, you aren't worth it.
Would need to know details of the client but if it's legal, I am likely to take the gig.

[Churchill]

I'd take the gig, pocket the cash and work to bring down the system from within!

Viva La Revolution Brothers!

Solidarity, Reg!

[gricerboy]

My father was a diabetic... for many years he was kept alive because he could inject insulin obtained from pigs...

I could mention that all drugs that save 000s of human lives were and are "tested" on animals....

My view on ends justifying the means is different from yours...... I hope you or your family never need any drugs etc.

Well, insulin from pigs aside, I was talking about animal testing. Much of this testing has been discredited - did you know for instance that aspirin would never have been allowed if research had been based on animal testing.

[Churchill]

Er, if it is your own poll then you can decide what options to offer.

FWIW, if it is legal then I will do it.

If it is illegal it'll just cost you more - do your own risk analysis and charge accordingly.

Well, insulin from pigs aside, I was talking about animal testing. Much of this testing has been discredited - did you know for instance that aspirin would never have been allowed if research had been based on animal testing.

How the f**k is a beagle going to tell you that its headache has gone?

[Drewster]

......any establishment that engages in the practice of animal testing no matter what the reason because I no longer think the end justifies the means under any circumstances.

My father was a diabetic... for many years he was kept alive because he could inject insulin obtained from pigs...

I could mention that all drugs that save 000s of human lives were and are "tested" on animals....

My view on ends justifying the means is different from yours...... I hope you or your family never need any drugs etc.

.......insulin from pigs aside............

<rant>
No you f'kin muppet!!!!!
I agree that some (even lots) of animal testing is NOT justified......
Its is W'nkers who use phrases like "under ANY circumstances"..... and (other) W'nkers who use emotive arguments (look at the poor little fluffy bunnies... its cruel etc).... that piss me off!!!

Animal Testing IS ACCEPTABLE in some circumstances....... you have just said thats your opinion..... don't argue f'king absolutes!!

By all means debate about which circumstances are acceptable but DON'T argue that it is wrong per se......

If someone genuinely believes that NO use of animals is correct then I trust they don't use any modern medicine, food, etc......
If mankind did not use animals we would be extinct.....

<rant off>

[Churchill]

<rant>
No you f'kin muppet!!!!!
I agree that some (even lots) of animal testing is NOT justified......
Its is W'nkers who use phrases like "under ANY circumstances"..... and (other) W'nkers who use emotive arguments (look at the poor little fluffy bunnies... its cruel etc).... that piss me off!!!

Animal Testing IS ACCEPTABLE in some circumstances....... you have just said thats your opinion..... don't argue f'king absolutes!!

By all means debate about which circumstances are acceptable but DON'T argue that it is wrong per se......

If someone genuinely believes that NO use of animals is correct then I trust they don't use any modern medicine, food, etc......
If mankind did not use animals we would be extinct.....

<rant off>

Drewster, you're turning blue!

FFS breathe man!

[Spacecadet]

Drewster, you're turning blue!

FFS breathe man!

WHS

and stop arguing with a sockie!