World Cup 2010: HMV withdraws 'racist' anti-England posters from Scottish stores

[Churchill]

Much of the city is obsessed with ancestry, really I have no interest in it.

I have always taken the view that nationality is simply a tag that states where you should be taxed.

My family name has been slightly modified twice, once when moving from France to Ireland and then it was changed to make it less Irish when moving to Scotland to get work. The other side of the family had to change their name during the war. When it gets to the stage where the place you live makes you change your name then I do not really have any great desire to wave the flag.

As usual, you miss the point.

[minestrone]

As usual, you miss the point.

Did you make a point in that post that I must address?

I just though I would simply reply with an opinion and experience to back up that opinion.

Would you rather we trade insults over nationality? That is the level your brain seems to be set at.

[Churchill]

Did you make a point in that post that I must address?

Nope.

I just though I would simply reply with an opinion and experience to back up that opinion.

Fine.

Would you rather we trade insults over nationality? That is the level your brain seems to be set at.

Not at all. I know many fine Scots. You Sir, are not one of them.

[minestrone]

Not at all. I know many fine Scots. You Sir, are not one of them.

You have never met me yet you dislike me with such passion.

You seem obsessed with me. Quite worrying.

[Incognito]

I think the fact that the OP picks out Grampian as the source of his figures sort of highlights the problem really. Aberdeen really is a dump. I can guarantee you, walk down Aberdeen with a Rangers / Celtic / England top on and you'll get the same amount of abuse. They really are inbreeds of the highest order, I hate the place. So don't tar all Scots the same because of that. If you go to the West of Scotland your religion seems to count more than your nationality and if you go up North no-one cares about your religion and it's your nationality which they'll hate you for.

Having served in Her Majesty's glorious forces, I became well accustomed to the term Frisp. You take it as banter though, clearly how it's intended. England has it's fair share of dicks though, I have been subject to racism in a club in Southampton ten years ago. Upon remarking to some old bloke in the toilets 'Alright mate' I got the drunken reply, '**** off, ******* Jock *****.' Now if I was sober I'd quite happily have laughed that off, but in my younger days I was the archetypical Stormy Jock.

There is also a clear anti Scottish message in quite a lot of the English mainstream media against Scotland. Take this as an example:

Passengers told to show passports when arriving in Scotland | Mail Online

(You'll notice the article has had to be changed to remove reference to English passengers, compare it to the original article which was quoted on the link below)

which generates lots of nice anti-Scottish comments on the likes of this:

Crossofstgeorge Debate :: View topic - English passengers forced to show passports in Scotch Region

Now when you sit and read into that article at the time, it was clear to anyone that English passengers were not being targeted, it was entirely random spot checks, yet the Daily Mail spun it as singling out the English, it's also interesting that they never ran that story North of the border in the Scottish edition.

There's even a nice Wiki article about Scotophobia (seriously, there's a word for it ) and who can forget old David Starkey and his views on Scotland.

Anyway, back to the point in question, I will support Anyone But England in the world cup, not through any hatred for England or the English (I've got a load of mates, blah blah blah) but purely because I hate the way your press builds you up, I mean seriously:

http://cdn.majorleaguesoccertalk.com...d-cup-2010.jpg

That backfired a bit didn't it?

[minestrone]

Having served in Her Majesty's glorious forces,

WTF is that meant to mean?

[minestrone]

I think the fact that the OP picks out Grampian as the source of his figures sort of highlights the problem really. Aberdeen really is a dump. I can guarantee you, walk down Aberdeen with a Rangers / Celtic / England top on and you'll get the same amount of abuse. They really are inbreeds of the highest order, I hate the place. So don't tar all Scots the same because of that. If you go to the West of Scotland your religion seems to count more than your nationality and if you go up North no-one cares about your religion and it's your nationality which they'll hate you for.

Having served in Her Majesty's glorious forces, I became well accustomed to the term Frisp. You take it as banter though, clearly how it's intended. England has it's fair share of dicks though, I have been subject to racism in a club in Southampton ten years ago. Upon remarking to some old bloke in the toilets 'Alright mate' I got the drunken reply, '**** off, ******* Jock *****.' Now if I was sober I'd quite happily have laughed that off, but in my younger days I was the archetypical Stormy Jock.

There is also a clear anti Scottish message in quite a lot of the English mainstream media against Scotland. Take this as an example:

Passengers told to show passports when arriving in Scotland | Mail Online

(You'll notice the article has had to be changed to remove reference to English passengers, compare it to the original article which was quoted on the link below)

which generates lots of nice anti-Scottish comments on the likes of this:

Crossofstgeorge Debate :: View topic - English passengers forced to show passports in Scotch Region

Now when you sit and read into that article at the time, it was clear to anyone that English passengers were not being targeted, it was entirely random spot checks, yet the Daily Mail spun it as singling out the English, it's also interesting that they never ran that story North of the border in the Scottish edition.

There's even a nice Wiki article about Scotophobia (seriously, there's a word for it ) and who can forget old David Starkey and his views on Scotland.

Anyway, back to the point in question, I will support Anyone But England in the world cup, not through any hatred for England or the English (I've got a load of mates, blah blah blah) but purely because I hate the way your press builds you up, I mean seriously:

http://cdn.majorleaguesoccertalk.com...d-cup-2010.jpg

That backfired a bit didn't it?

Anyway, you have quite happily proven my point "that Much of the city is obsessed with ancestry"

You are a tool, but you have proven useful on this thread.

[Incognito]

WTF is that meant to mean?

If you don't get it, you don't matter.

Anyway, you have quite happily proven my point "that Much of the city is obsessed with ancestry"

I really don't get the point you're trying to make here, have you been on the Vino perhaps? Oh dear, easy target tonight then.

You are a tool, but you have proven useful on this thread.

Ahem, to quote an 'esteemed' poster of this site

You have never met me yet you dislike me with such passion.

You seem obsessed with me. Quite worrying.

[minestrone]

Ahem, to quote an 'esteemed' poster of this site

Honestly, you have always struck me as a bit of an uneducated moron.

How many times did you put me on your ignore list last year? How many times did you take me off your ignore list last year?

[shaunbhoy]

Anyway, back to the point in question, I will support Anyone But England in the world cup, not through any hatred for England or the English (I've got a load of mates, blah blah blah) but purely because I hate the way your press builds you up

I don't see it that way. I am actually old enough to remember occasions where Scotland qualified and England did not, and in fact was living in England during one such occasion. During the 1978 Finals.
Lots of English people said afterwards that they were all right behind Scotland because they were the only home team at those Finals. However, that was by no means the case. Very few were actively rooting for anyone else, but I cannot remember a single person who really gave a toss about how we fared.
Fair dos I thought, why SHOULD they give a hoot really?
I am much the same where England are concerned, I am not going to be cheering for anyone playing them, but I am not likely to be plastering the car with St George's flags neither.
I am watching these finals in the hope that the team that plays the most attractive footy and scores the most goals, ends up as Champions. As it stands, the chances of England being that team are not looking good, but if it all turns to gold over the next few weeks then so be it. They will deserve all the plaudits they will ultimately get.
If people believe I am racist because I am not falling over myself to jump on the England bandwagon, then that is their prerogative. I regard myself as a neutral observer.
Besides, that particular bandwagon looks like it has a few too many wobbly wheels for my liking!!