israeli army terrorists murder innocents again

[minestrone]

The Royal Navy has an International Mandate to board vessels suspected of Drug Smuggling.

It is in the UN Charter that a vessel may be boarded if it is suspected of terrorist activities or if it is suspected of smuggling arms. That is a clear mandate.

[Churchill]

It is in the UN Charter that a vessel may be boarded if it is suspected of terrorist activities or if it is suspected of smuggling arms. That is a clear mandate.

Which UN resolution are you reading? If it's 1816 then you're way out in your interpretation.

[Fred Scuttle]

Still pretence here that Israelis or the BBC etc are idiotic enough to invent an Aljazeera news item. Don't you think that would be a tad obvious? Wouldn't somebody on the Palestinian side have said so by now? Wouldn't the papers and umpteen blogs be telling us?

This convoy was not about bringing food and medicine to Gaza, the Israelis do let shipments in provided they can check them for banned items and had offered to let this convey dock on the same basis. This was about getting the blockade (ie the checks not an absolute ban on all goods) lifted and if that happened it would not be long before explosives and weapons were pouring into Gaza. After all (unless the BBC and Channel 4 invented those reports too and they also mysteriously went unchallenged) there are umpteen 10 year olds being brainwashed to attack Israel.

I agree the Israelis appear to have acted disproportionately, live arms should not be used against people with iron bars except as a very last resort - haven't they heard of tear gas, CS gas or rubber bullets? However, nobody on the other boats was seriously hurt. If the Israelis were just bent on shooting people how come? The reality of this is that there was a secondary motive, possibly backed by the Turkish government, to gain a propoganda coup. That (genuine) Aljazeera video indicates there was radical group on this boat who were willing to die to acheive it by provoking a violent reaction.

A list of banned items into Gaza can be found here:

http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/Hidd...trip060510.pdf

The list is not comprehensive. On one of last year’s convoys a UK yachtsman donated his yacht after he saw Palestinian fishing boats being destroyed by the Israelis. He agreed that his yacht could enter via Israeli customs from whence it was seized and never seen again along with three ambulances.

It is ironic that there has been numerous UN resolutions asking Israel to stop attacking civilians but nobody is suggesting an arms embargo on Israel.

The Israeli opposition were against this attack and so were thousands of Israeli protesters in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

If you listen to all the news reports you will find the ship that was attacked was the largest and fastest ship, the other ships were smaller had had to give way. The reports from the German and British Nationals so far have been consistent, ie: The Turkish ship was fired on by helicopter when it refused to stop.

Another point I noticed was a BBC report claming that the British Consul had visited all the British detainees and they were all being treated well however, each and every British detainee has stated that they never had access or saw the British Consul.

[minestrone]

Which UN resolution are you reading? If it's 1816 then you're way out in your interpretation.

Anti-terrorist police are continuing their search of a cargo ship from Mauritius which they intercepted in the English Channel on Friday morning.
The Metropolitan Police's Anti-Terrorist Branch, in a joint security operation with the Royal Navy and Customs, said it was acting on "a credible tip-off" that terrorist material was on board.

She was making a pretty standard voyage but then we are told that there are all these places that are supposedly linked with al-Qaeda

Great Eastern Shipping Company

An initial search of the vessel uncovered nothing, and it has now been taken to Sandown Bay off the Isle of Wight, for a second search which could last several days.

The BBC's Margaret Gilmore said the police were looking for "terrorist paraphernalia which was Bin Laden-related" but they would not be more specific and stressed there was no intelligence to suggest anthrax was involved.

Click here to see cargo ship's route

The MV Nisha, which is owned by the Bombay-based Great Eastern Shipping Company, was heading for a sugar refinery in east London when it was intercepted in international waters off the Sussex coast.

The 500ft ship was boarded by the Royal Navy and Anti-Terrorist Branch officers at about 0800GMT.

A Scotland Yard spokesman later said: "A full security search of the ship has been completed and no noxious or dangerous substances have been found aboard the vessel.

"At this stage it is not possible to say how long officers will remain aboard the ship."

During a press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Prime Minister Tony Blair said the interception demonstrated the "top-level vigilance" of the security services over the coming weeks.

He said: "Even if the risk is only a potential risk, we will not hesitate to take any action that we think necessary in order to investigate any potential threat."

'Crew are co-operative'



The ship had sailed from Mauritius, and there were reports it had stopped in Djibouti, next to Somalia, which has been linked with Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terror network.

HMS Sutherland was involved in Friday's operation


But chairman of the Great Eastern Shipping Company, Sudhir Muliji, said the stopover in Djibouti had been made before the current journey and was to drop off American grain as part of a food aid shipment.

He said the ship then went on to Mauritius to pick up the sugar and transport it to Britain.

"She was making a pretty standard voyage but then we are told that there are all these places that are supposedly linked with al-Qaeda," he said.

"Obviously there must have been some information that went to Scotland Yard and they decided to make double sure that there was nothing bad on board, which I think we must be very grateful for."

Sugar cargo

The MV Nisha had been chartered by the Mauritius Sugar Syndicate and was carrying 26,000 tonnes of its raw sugar.

The vessel was heading for the Tate & Lyle sugar refinery at Silvertown, and was due to arrive at 0400GMT on Saturday.

Tate & Lyle's director of corporate communications, Chris Fox, said the company was co-operating fully with the police.

He said: "There was a lot of secrecy around it all so we only heard about it this afternoon."

HMS Sutherland was involved in the operation, the Ministry of Defence said.

Dramatic TV film of the interception of the MV Nisha showed the Royal Navy frigate HMS Sutherland trailing the ship by a few 100 yards.

Four rigid-inflatable boats then went after the merchant vessel, zipping across the waves until they pulled level.

We do it, they do it.

Nobody was screaming about the legality of that boarding.

[lilelvis2000]

A list of banned items into Gaza can be found here:

http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/Hidd...trip060510.pdf

[snip]

Another point I noticed was a BBC report claming that the British Consul had visited all the British detainees and they were all being treated well however, each and every British detainee has stated that they never had access or saw the British Consul.

The Israeli's don't allow some school supplies and..gasp..pasta!

Its pretty common for Israel to have detainees visited by imposters. Its happened to at least two of my friends. On one occasion the Israeli's phoned my friend's parents to inform them he was dead, he was not. He was then visited by someone posing as a member of the Canadian Consulate...he found this out later when he returned to Canada.

And...Don't forget about the forgery of British passports.

Nice country if you can have one. Do what you like how you like. How do I get one?

[lilelvis2000]

We do it, they do it.

Nobody was screaming about the legality of that boarding.

Not good PR though is it?
And I think I did read a few comments regarding the legality of the boarding. Google as you like.

[Fred Scuttle]

The English Channel is not international waters, international waters start at the edge of the continental shelf.

[EC4N]

It is in the UN Charter that a vessel may be boarded if it is suspected of terrorist activities or if it is suspected of smuggling arms. That is a clear mandate.

In the first instance, why doesn't it comply with the hundreds of UN resolutions passed against it instead flouting them with complete impunity? And if that was the case then you wouldn't need a UN charter to justify their actions because there wouldn't be any flotillas delivering aid.

[Flashman]

The Israeli's don't allow some school supplies and..gasp..pasta!

Its pretty common for Israel to have detainees visited by imposters. Its happened to at least two of my friends. On one occasion the Israeli's phoned my friend's parents to inform them he was dead, he was not. He was then visited by someone posing as a member of the Canadian Consulate...he found this out later when he returned to Canada

What were they doing there? Working on a kibbutz? Always wanted to try that one. Awesome parties so I've heard !

[minestrone]

In the first instance, why doesn't it comply with the hundreds of UN resolutions passed against it instead flouting them with complete impunity? And if that was the case then you wouldn't need a UN charter to justify their actions because there wouldn't be any flotillas delivering aid.

You sound like you think the Gaza strip is some kind of progressive, liberal post modern society, it's not, it's a ****ed up place governed by ****ed up people who brainwash children to be suicide bombers.

If that blockade was lifted Iran would be sending as many rockets as they could get on as many boats as they could find.

They cannot be trusted, full stop, and I am surprised so many people are gullable enough to support them. The blockade stays until they stop firing rockets which happens on an almost daily basis.