22,000 reasons England should have a flat tax system

[Mailman]

That flat tax document is a very good read indeed...no wonder Gordo ordered his minions to remove all the good things about flat taxes in their discussion papers last year!

I like how those guys called NI a tax (which everyone except the government knows!)

Mailman

[AlfredJPruffock]

[QUOTE=Tex]I think you must be mistaken. According to Benn0 we are living in a socialist utopia.[/QUOTE

Aye Tex

When I hear the phrase socialist utopia I reach for my revolver ...

[The Master]

That flat tax document is a very good read indeed...no wonder Gordo ordered his minions to remove all the good things about flat taxes in their discussion papers last year!

Yes, it is an interesting read. I notice though that whenever the flat tax idea is being knocked it is slated as "tax cuts for the rich". It seems strange, and even I didn't realise how far the proposal went, that even its defenders aren't vigorously pushing where the real savings are and saying "actually it's all about ensuring that half the population at the bottom end pay no tax at all".

Given Cameron's talk of wealth distribution, I think we are stuck in the moral rut for quite some time that 'nice countries tax "the rich" heavily'. It is fast becoming a "no debate allowed" issue along the same lines as immigration.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Yes, it is an interesting read. I notice though that whenever the flat tax idea is being knocked it is slated as "tax cuts for the rich". It seems strange, and even I didn't realise how far the proposal went, that even its defenders aren't vigorously pushing where the real savings are and saying "actually it's all about ensuring that half the population at the bottom end pay no tax at all".

Given Cameron's talk of wealth distribution, I think we are stuck in the moral rut for quite some time that 'nice countries tax "the rich" heavily'. It is fast becoming a "no debate allowed" issue along the same lines as immigration.

Flat tax is all very well,yet not far reaching enough.

I propose abolishing Income Tax all together.

[threaded]

22,000?

13,000 from Jobcentre
30,000 from Network Rail

that'll be 33,000, at least

So I guess 22,000 is the taxable amount?

[Mailman]

Not really sure what planet this government is on...its obvious that the more you penalise the rich (ie. increase their tax burden) the more ingenious ways they will find to avoid paying tax (like Philip Greens avoidance scheme).

Just a pitty this government (and the next, and the one after that...) are so stuck on the idea that "the rich must be forced to pay more because its an afront that they are rich".

Mailman

[Joe Black]

There is one problem though with the flat tax system...it's implications.

Imagine if the tax system was so simple that just about anyones 5 year old son/daughter could fill in their parents tax return each year...just think about it.

[Fungus]

There is one problem though with the flat tax system...it's implications.

Imagine if the tax system was so simple that just about anyones 5 year old son/daughter could fill in their parents tax return each year...just think about it.

I'm all for the exploitation of children. Make them earn their keep. The little scroungers. They've had it too easy since coal fires went out of fashion.

Anyway, they'd do better than my accountant. I always end up having to make extra payments to Golden Brown.

Fungus

[DodgyAgent]

I'm all for the exploitation of children. Make them earn their keep. The little scroungers. They've had it too easy since coal fires went out of fashion.

Anyway, they'd do better than my accountant. I always end up having to make extra payments to Golden Brown.

Fungus

The Poles wouldnt like having their jobs taken off them by newly redundant civil servants would they?

[The Master]

Perhaps we could retrain all those redundant civil servants as plumbers in order to break the evil monopoly that the International Plumbist Conspiracy has over the quoting of trivial 'fixit' jobs?