Why do you vote as you do?

[VectraMan]

So I will be voting Lib Dem, helped by the fact they are the party most likely to depose the incumbent Labour MP where I live.

LibDems took West Oxford last time round IIRC, and I guess they've got a good chance of taking East Oxford from Labour this time. Here in the Tory safe seat of Banbury, the LibDems were third last time, and perhaps may even take second. But they're both way behind. It literally makes no difference who I vote for. But it could be worse: I could live in Buckingham where nobody gets a vote.

I agree that George Osbourne is a bit wet, but I'm still more inclined to like him than Alistair Darling, and even Vince Cable doesn't seem as impressive in practice as his reputation suggests. I admit to voting for the LibDems in the past (including when I was in East Oxford), but I'm sure their policies were sensible alternatives back then. This time round they seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent.

I like most of what the Conservatives say, but I can't understand why they're hanging onto cutting inheritance tax.

[Green Mango]

LibDems took West Oxford last time round IIRC, and I guess they've got a good chance of taking East Oxford from Labour this time. Here in the Tory safe seat of Banbury, the LibDems were third last time, and perhaps may even take second. But they're both way behind. It literally makes no difference who I vote for. But it could be worse: I could live in Buckingham where nobody gets a vote.

I agree that George Osbourne is a bit wet, but I'm still more inclined to like him than Alistair Darling, and even Vince Cable doesn't seem as impressive in practice as his reputation suggests. I admit to voting for the LibDems in the past (including when I was in East Oxford), but I'm sure their policies were sensible alternatives back then. This time round they seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent.

I like most of what the Conservatives say, but I can't understand why they're hanging onto cutting inheritance tax.

Well the question is who the left centre Lib Dems ar most likely to cut a deal with and that has got to be left centre Labour.
A vote for the LIb Dems is just really a vote for Labour.

[VectraMan]

Well the question is who the left centre Lib Dems ar most likely to cut a deal with and that has got to be left centre Labour.
A vote for the LIb Dems is just really a vote for Labour.

Unless you're in a constituency where LibDems are second to Labour, in which case a vote for the Lib Dems is a vote for The Conservatives.

[Green Mango]

Unless you're in a constituency where LibDems are second to Labour, in which case a vote for the Lib Dems is a vote for The Conservatives.

I am in a constituency were the Lib Dems are second to Labour ie Warrington South, but all three parties have the potential to win here.

Anyway don't see the advantage of a Lib Dem win over Labour.
They both have left wing policies and I can see little difference between them.

It's clear Labour want a Lib-Lab alliance. The Libs are acting coy, but I'm sure they'll
be bribed to the alter of Lib-Lab political alliance.

[swamp]

I am in a constituency were the Lib Dems are second to Labour ie Warrington South, but all three parties have the potential to win here.

Anyway don't see the advantage of a Lib Dem win over Labour.
They both have left wing policies and I can see little difference between them.

It's clear Labour want a Lib-Lab alliance. The Libs are acting coy, but I'm sure they'll
be bribed to the alter of Lib-Lab political alliance.

The Libs will cut a deal with anyone who will let Clegg be PM. The Tories won't/can't agree to it because Cameron is leader of the party. Labour OTOH will agree, no doubt with a little scheming from Mandelson to boot out Brown.

[Green Mango]

The Libs will cut a deal with anyone who will let Clegg be PM. The Tories won't/can't agree to it because Cameron is leader of the party. Labour OTOH will agree, no doubt with a little scheming from Mandelson to boot out Brown.

Well just heard Clegg say the Gordo will have to come at least second to keep his job if Lab pact with Libs.

However, that does not preclude another Labour heavy weight or perhaps as you say Clegg fronting the
normal Lib-Lab coalition.

[Weltchy]

I'm not a f#ing Professor of Semantics, mate. When you say, "You would vote for a party that would leave you personally worse off and let them spend your extra tax money on the welfare state?" I take that to mean that you think that spending your extra tax money on the Welfare State is a waste of money which leaves you personally worse off.

If you meant something else entirely then try putting it in f#ing English for us.

Well "mate", since you put it in such nicely framed words, how can I but not respond.

My argument is that the majority of people in this country abuse the system and don't put in what they take out. I accept that there are some misfortunates who cannot and will not be in such a position, however it is unfair on a gradually reducing proportion of our society to be expected to look after the welfare of others over an extended period of time when these people should not be in such a position.

Now, with regard to your comments. If you can't be bothered to reply with anything other than a snap response and insults, don't expect me to either. If we are both hold a civilised discussion, then there's no need to insult and the like, is there "mate".

[DodgyAgent]

Well "mate", since you put it in such nicely framed words, how can I but not respond.

My argument is that the majority of people in this country abuse the system and don't put in what they take out. I accept that there are some misfortunates who cannot and will not be in such a position, however it is unfair on a gradually reducing proportion of our society to be expected to look after the welfare of others over an extended period of time when these people should not be in such a position.

Now, with regard to your comments. If you can't be bothered to reply with anything other than a snap response and insults, don't expect me to either. If we are both hold a civilised discussion, then there's no need to insult and the like, is there "mate".

I think abusing the system slightly misleads what is going on here. I think it is more appopriate top say that there are well over 2 million people "trapped" by the system. These people therefore work the benefits system (single mothers) to get the maximum advantage from it. It is a dreadful waste of human life to encourage this system to prosper . If these people are clever enough to work the benefits system then they are most certainly clever enough to compete in the work place. The problem is that they are born into a cycle of welfare, and then given an appalling education and have little or no chance of breaking from it.

This system is openly supported by the left because without a "poor" in society they would have no integrity to their values and ideals.

[Weltchy]

I think abusing the system slightly misleads what is going on here. I think it is more appopriate top say that there are well over 2 million people "trapped" by the system. These people therefore work the benefits system (single mothers) to get the maximum advantage from it. It is a dreadful waste of human life to encourage this system to prosper . If these people are clever enough to work the benefits system then they are most certainly clever enough to compete in the work place. The problem is that they are born into a cycle of welfare, and then given an appalling education and have little or no chance of breaking from it.

This system is openly supported by the left because without a "poor" in society they would have no integrity to their values and ideals.

Well put. I can understand how people can be trapped into relying on the system. That said however, I was brought up to believe that the best person to get yourself out of a bad situation is yourself, through hard work and perserverance and of course the motto 'Nothing in this world is free'. I believe that principle should apply to everyone, hence the harsh line that I take.

[threaded]

Well put. I can understand how people can be trapped into relying on the system. That said however, I was brought up to believe that the best person to get yourself out of a bad situation is yourself, through hard work and perserverance and of course the motto 'Nothing in this world is free'. I believe that principle should apply to everyone, hence the harsh line that I take.

I do hope you know that is against many peoples religion: it's called the 'Protestant Work Ethic', and in the multicultural society of Britain today, one shouldn't be prothletising a set of values that are at variance with these peoples moral system.