I'm on benefits....

[fullyautomatix]

And sustain 20 fags, 12 cans of stella a day habit while ponsing around with their 3 kids called Chardonnay, Trent, and Kylie all of whom and under 5, have Nike's and iPhones.

Don't mind minimal food and shelter to survive. But it's taking the p1ss these days.

I work close to a town that has a high rate of benefit spongers. There was a good deal on an IPOD recently in the O2 shop and when I visited the shop in the town filled with chav mums the staff told me the stock ran out within an hour.

I then visited another shop in an affluent town and there were loads in stock.

I drew my own conclusions.

[Ravello]

My position is: why should people suffer because of government policy? If the government is happy to bring lots of people in on cheap wages then why should the people who would otherwise do these jobs bother looking for work, and additional to that, why should they suffer a lower standard of living?

Are you sure it happened in that order? A lot of menial/unskilled work has been farmed out to foreigners as the local populace seem to think such roles are beneath them (or more likely they get more from playing "the system")...

[threaded]

Are you sure it happened in that order? A lot of menial/unskilled work has been farmed out to foreigners as the local populace seem to think such roles are beneath them (or more likely they get more from playing "the system")...

Well, if you put it in that order then the government are even more to blame. It's a 'deus ex machina', they set a bar and make it not worthwhile for the locals to do the jobsbelow that level, and then use that as an excuse to bring in cheap labour. Move the bar a little higher, rinse, repeat. Eventually the government end up with a sizeable gerrymandered group who'll always vote for them.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Very good. Feel better? Proud? A surge that says, I'm here, I've made it, THE WORLD IS MINE? The surge Nadal gets when he wins Wimbledon, Tiger wins the Masters, it says I AM A WINNER, I'M THE BEST, I'M GREATEST, I can spot a typo ...

He's a tester - he spots things like that for a living.

[HairyArsedBloke]

If the social benefits are there and you qualify for them then you are only mugging yourself if you don't take them. Never be ashamed for having back some of what the government are all too keen of taking from you by force. (This is an aggregate 'you', not specifically any one individual)

Now, should those benefits be there - I don't believed that they should to the extent that they currently exist.

I also believe that there needs to be constraints on the near infinite supply of external workers.

There should be a lot more done to help those that are without work. This help needs to be tailored and practical. Idiotic plans such as driving people into deeper poverty so that low-paid work becomes relatively more attractive, or putting people on chain gangs picking up dog mess in the local park to ridicule them into taking a job, are devoid of any merit. How do they make anyone more desirable as a candidate to an employer?

[lilelvis2000]

Big deal. I know a family where three of them are on benefits (mother, two daughters). One daughter has 5 kids and a husband we believe is working.
Anyway, each year they take a holiday for five weeks and own a holiday home where they holiday. So at an airfare of about £400 per person x 9 people plus the maintenence on the home.

The taxpayer - getting ripped off by the banks and by scrougers.

[threaded]

Big deal. I know a family where three of them are on benefits (mother, two daughters). One daughter has 5 kids and a husband we believe is working.
Anyway, each year they take a holiday for five weeks and own a holiday home where they holiday. So at an airfare of about £400 per person x 9 people plus the maintenence on the home.

The taxpayer - getting ripped off by the banks and by scrougers.

I would suggest in the great scheme of things I'd rather double the money for scroungers than give it to the banks. It'd still work out cheaper by a large margin.

[al_cam]

Until such time as we stop giving people money and start giving them food stamps etc so that all the state provides is food and a roof and NO luxuries you will not see anything change.

Except give them a Tesco delivery - they will swap stamps for fags and booze and complain about the indignity of having to use stamps.

Also get them to turn up somewhere at 9:00 and 5:00 every week day or they don't get a delivery that day.

[biggles_1]

What are they holidaying from?

What are they holidaying from?

Jeremy Kyle?

Surely everyone needs a break from that!

J.