Cost of Iraq war could top $2 trillion: study

[EternalOptimist]

Bgg

Thats the problem with you board gamers. You can only come up with a winning strategy after playing a dozen games and seeing all the pit falls. In the real world you only get one shot so its got to be right first time.

[Shimano105]

I think the biggest irony out of all this is that they went after the wrong madman.

Iran is really asking for a war and, to be honest, I think it is seeming justifiable given their actions and rhetoric.

If the septics had gone after these lunatics who are openly developing nuclear capabilities and threatening attacks on Israel, then the World community would have backed them and a real threat would have been eliminated. No phoney intelligence would be required and a vastly immoral white elephant would have been avoided.

As it stands, another gulf war looks inevitable which would be even more disastrous on the back of Iraq. Going cap in hand to the French and Germans for support must smart a little. Maybe they will refuse again after the Yanks cried wolf the last time.

[wendigo100]

Speaking of which I wonder how many of the pro war folks prior to the conflict still think it was all worthwhile ?

Good question.

1. There are those on the "get Saddam out and impose democracy" ticket, and few of them will ever change their minds.

2. There are those who feared him using WMD, and they will have changed their minds, because they now know that there never was any real evidence of WMD.

Also, there are many who think that tactically it would have been better to leave Saddam Hussein in place, since he was fighting for us, quite successfully, at the front line against Al Qu'aeda and other nutty fundamentalists in the region.

[expat]

I think the biggest irony out of all this is that they went after the wrong madman.

Iran is really asking for a war and, to be honest, I think it is seeming justifiable given their actions and rhetoric.

If the septics had gone after these lunatics who are openly developing nuclear capabilities and threatening attacks on Israel, then the World community would have backed them and a real threat would have been eliminated. No phoney intelligence would be required and a vastly immoral white elephant would have been avoided.

As it stands, another gulf war looks inevitable which would be even more disastrous on the back of Iraq. Going cap in hand to the French and Germans for support must smart a little. Maybe they will refuse again after the Yanks cried wolf the last time.

Of course they will. The project is to keep the world's oil priced in dollars (so that the US can write its own IOUs and we all have to pick them up). The threat is the euro: Iraq priced its oil in euros, and suddenly it was invaded and its oil immediately priced in dollars again. Iran now takes euros for its oil but still prices it in dollars: that's the next (and fatal) step.

Going to war to protect the dollar's supremacy is the last thing on the table in Paris and Berlin.

[AlfredJPruffock]

I think the biggest irony out of all this is that they went after the wrong madman.

Iran is really asking for a war and, to be honest, I think it is seeming justifiable given their actions and rhetoric.

If the septics had gone after these lunatics who are openly developing nuclear capabilities and threatening attacks on Israel, then the World community would have backed them and a real threat would have been eliminated. No phoney intelligence would be required and a vastly immoral white elephant would have been avoided.

As it stands, another gulf war looks inevitable which would be even more disastrous on the back of Iraq. Going cap in hand to the French and Germans for support must smart a little. Maybe they will refuse again after the Yanks cried wolf the last time.

Why Iran rather than the barabric evil empire of Suadia Arabia who spawned Bin Laden and the fianance for Sep 11th ?

BTW BGK Iraq had no terrorists or fundamentalists whatsoever prior to Sep 11th , sadly the War has increased terrorism not reduced it.

Anyway thx for your comments,it saddens me that our so called leaders were so short sighted not to see that war in Iraq would be a grave error, will they learn from their mistakes ?

Iran ...our last terratorial claim.

[stackpole]

BTW BGK Iraq had no terrorists or fundamentalists whatsoever prior to Sep 11th , sadly the War has increased terrorism not reduced it.

Correction Alf, as far as I can see, Iraq had no terrorists or fundamentalists whatsoever prior to our invasion in March 2003.

What does BGK mean?

[AlfredJPruffock]

Correction Alf, as far as I can see, Iraq had no terrorists or fundamentalists whatsoever prior to our invasion in March 2003.

What does BGK mean?

Thx SP of course I meant prior not only to Sep 11th but the war itself, the BGK ought to have been BGG Board Game Geek, hmmm ... guess its time for a cuppa now ...

While the World Wages War
It gets harder to see
Who your friends really are

[Joe Black]

The project is to keep the world's oil priced in dollars (so that the US can write its own IOUs and we all have to pick them up). The threat is the euro: Iraq priced its oil in euros, and suddenly it was invaded and its oil immediately priced in dollars again. Iran now takes euros for its oil but still prices it in dollars: that's the next (and fatal) step.

Going to war to protect the dollar's supremacy is the last thing on the table in Paris and Berlin.

Hmm, having just read that in Brazil over 50% of cars sold in 2005 can run on ethanol would it not be a better option for the US to forget about all this oil/pricing in $$'s and spend the odd 100 bln on making it totally independant of these sorts of places, especially given the people who seem to supply most of the resources these days?

Iraq had no terrorists or fundamentalists whatsoever prior to Sep 11th

Well the later they had by the bucket load, it's just taken a bit more time to ensure they sit in all parts of the gov't...if you can call it that.

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