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The Liblabs won by a country mile, of course not having the huge handicap of actually having to live by his words made his particular bulltulip easy to deliver.
I doesn't matter who wins these debates, its who comes 3rd that tells the real story.
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The Liblabs won by a country mile, of course not having the huge handicap of actually having to live by his words made his particular bulltulip easy to deliver.
I doesn't matter who wins these debates, its who comes 3rd that tells the real story.
Even if the LIb-Lab combo is the viable option, Brown will not let his hands be tied by another party's polilcies and aims. Balls will be chancellor, mostly so as Gorgon can do his Wizard of Oz impersonation unhampered by someone with a will of their own like Darling.
Far more likely to have Osborne as chancellor, with some bloke called Clarke in the back office giving him advise on how to proceed... Can't put Clarke inthe front seat, it would only bring up all the pro/anti EU rubbish again, even if he never mentions it himself. Cameron won't allow that to happen.
Osborne will be the final thing that sinks the Tories and gives the election to Labour. If Cameron couldn't see that, then it will be his own fault he isn't elected.
A hung parliament seems a likely possibility and one I hope will come to pass. Why do I hope for this ?
Public sector strikes, more expensive public borrowing, collapsed currency, rising prices (food etc), more unemployment, more economically inactive people on top of the 8 million we already have, more tax. Such mayhem is on its way and not deserving upon a newly elected Tory Gov't. But is thoroughly deserving upon a newly elected minority Labour Gov't.
I'd expect a vote of no confidence and a new election called within 6 to 9 months. Then the Tories would be likely to win by a wide margin and have the required mandate to do what needs to be done.
If the Tories in May win by a paper thin victory they'll have to deal with all the brownstuff (aptly named) and get blamed for all the ensuing grief. They'd be on a hiding to nothing in my opinion.
I've been on this page for ages. Brown heading a minority government, taking all the sh*t and punishment for his 13 years of incompetence, and getting kicked out at a time of Cameron and Clegg's choosing.
The beauty of course is if Brown cannot stomach sharing power with Nick Clegg. If a 2nd election has to be called sooner rather than later, Labour can barely afford to fight this election, let alone a 2nd one.
Tory/LibDem pact ? I wonder what the bookies will offer for this outcome ?
Of course, depending on how close it all is, it could end up as Con-SNP or some such awful combination.
Lib have said they won't enter a coalition with anyone who is going to cut public sector spending in the first year, so unless either Lib or Con move, it's unlikely.
Of course, depending on how close it all is, it could end up as Con-SNP or some such awful combination.
Lib have said they won't enter a coalition with anyone who is going to cut public sector spending in the first year, so unless either Lib or Con move, it's unlikely.
Lib will move a bit and tories will move a bit. Both want power, and it could be a good combination. Cameroon as PM, Hague in there doing something important and Cable as Chancellor.
And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014
Of course, depending on how close it all is, it could end up as Con-SNP or some such awful combination.
Lib have said they won't enter a coalition with anyone who is going to cut public sector spending in the first year, so unless either Lib or Con move, it's unlikely.
I doubt the Tories and LibDems will form a formal coallition. The point is that Labour would not be able to bulldoze anything through any more - they always need other parties to support it.
So think forward a year or two, when the sh*t is really hitting the fan. Labour are hamstrung, and the public (who haven't understood the simple concept of debt let alone the nuances of minority government) only see and only blame Labour.
Once Cameron thinks the tail is well and truly pinned on the donkey, and has secured majority support from other parties, he calls a vote of no confidence in the government, which Labour cannot win. That results in a general election, and a new Tory government (plus enhanced Lib Dem showing) mandated to clear up the donkey's mess.
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