Irish public sector take 13% pay cut

[sasguru]

How is that arithmetically possible? The public sector is, as people frequently complain, subsidised by the private sector; it can not logically be otherwise, there is no sense in pretending so. Surely then, the extreme theoretical high value comes if the private sector earns £X and pays 100% of that to run the public sector. That would be a £X private sector and a £X public sector: i.e. the public sector can not "swallow" more than 50% of GDP.

if the public sector is > than the private sector the difference is borrowing.
Hence the tulip hole we're in now.
HTH

[Mich the Tester]

if the public sector is > than the private sector the difference is borrowing.
Hence the tulip hole we're in now.
HTH

It’s back to Margaret Thatcher’s statement that ‘socialist governments always run out of other people’s money’.

[SueEllen]

Nurses do most of the work these days in the hospitals. Under New Labour it seems doctors are just sitting on their arses all day while nurses work their butt off. Numerous time I have been to A&E I havent seen a doc, it's always been a nurse.

The two junior A&E doctors on, of which at least one if not all will be foreign, are busy treating other patients, writing up paperwork or trying to get a more specialist doctor down to come and see a patient.

Most of the jurnior doctors that you see on A&E don't actually work in A&E full time. They are bleeped from their wards when required.

If a more senior doctor is required and it's a night or weekend then they are rang up at home.

Everything depends on the speciality the doctor is in, and the type of hospital whose A&E you are in.

When New Labour announce that they are investing billions into NHS, all of it goes into hiring managers to issue more and more regulations. When there is a cost cutting exercise these managers have the audacity to go and fire the nurses.

IMO, all the managers should be sacked in the NHS and the billions should be invested in hiring nurses and buying state of the art equipment.

You mean going back to the situation where nurses actually manage the departments and wards, rather than full time managers with no medical experience? Or do you mean there should be no-one managing anything?

[Mich the Tester]

You mean going back to the situation where nurses actually manage the departments and wards, rather than full time managers with no medical experience?

Madness, it would never work! Just imagine, there'd be less scares about hygiene, so no work for specialist cleaning firms, there'd be less skin infections so less money for pharma salesmen, patients cheerfully going home after a short stay instead of taking up a bed and generating income.

You don't understand it do you? It's not about curing people you fool, it's about making money out of keeping them ill.

[Churchill]

The two junior A&E doctors on, of which at least one if not all will be foreign, are busy treating other patients, writing up paperwork or trying to get a more specialist doctor down to come and see a patient.

Most of the jurnior doctors that you see on A&E don't actually work in A&E full time. They are bleeped from their wards when required.

If a more senior doctor is required and it's a night or weekend then they are rang up at home.

Everything depends on the speciality the doctor is in, and the type of hospital whose A&E you are in.



You mean going back to the situation where nurses actually manage the departments and wards, rather than full time managers with no medical experience? Or do you mean there should be no-one managing anything?

Bring back Matron!!!