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    #21
    Originally posted by MaryPoppins View Post
    I haven't experienced open contractor vs permie animosity before. Just cos he is too insecure to take the contractor route, the stupid knacker.
    It goes deeper than that, I've seen it in quite a few companies.

    When large (sometimes ex-civil-service) companies start using contractors, the long-standing permie workforce is coerced to go along with it, because they're project managers, and the resourcing makes sense.

    Usually after a while they realise it's no longer temporary, and it's usually at this point there is some Union action to quell or control the numbers or durations. The company itself usually vigorously defends the use of freelance labour. At this point it becomes very us and them.

    Forced to use us, but they hate the company siding with us over the issue of our use.
    Cooking doesn't get tougher than this.

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      #22
      Originally posted by TheBigYinJames View Post
      It goes deeper than that, I've seen it in quite a few companies.

      When large (sometimes ex-civil-service) companies start using contractors, the long-standing permie workforce is coerced to go along with it, because they're project managers, and the resourcing makes sense.

      Usually after a while they realise it's no longer temporary, and it's usually at this point there is some Union action to quell or control the numbers or durations. The company itself usually vigorously defends the use of freelance labour. At this point it becomes very us and them.

      Forced to use us, but they hate the company siding with us over the issue of our use.
      Is someone who doesn’t have the brains to figure out that in such a situation they should join the contractors really worth employing?
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #23
        Originally posted by TheBigYinJames View Post
        It goes deeper than that, I've seen it in quite a few companies.

        When large (sometimes ex-civil-service) companies start using contractors, the long-standing permie workforce is coerced to go along with it, because they're project managers, and the resourcing makes sense.

        Usually after a while they realise it's no longer temporary, and it's usually at this point there is some Union action to quell or control the numbers or durations. The company itself usually vigorously defends the use of freelance labour. At this point it becomes very us and them.

        Forced to use us, but they hate the company siding with us over the issue of our use.
        ...and in general terms, I can completely understand where they would come from, but it's not nice when it becomes personal.
        Practically perfect in every way....there's a time and (more importantly) a place for malarkey.
        +5 Xeno Cool Points

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          #24
          Originally posted by MaryPoppins View Post
          ...and in general terms, I can completely understand where they would come from, but it's not nice when it becomes personal.
          Sometimes it's 'apparently' jokey jibes and names, e.g. 'contractorscum'. Easy to laugh along with, just think of your last invoice.

          Now and again you get non-cooperation, and what would amount to downright bullying. For the non-cooperation, just make sure you have all your paperwork in order, let someone else kick their butts. For the latter, remember that as a freelance worker you're still covered by Equality laws in the workplace.
          Cooking doesn't get tougher than this.

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