What is the different in ideology between the big 3 parties

[Doggy Styles]

No there are not. On every major issue they have each turned about and stolen each other's policies repeatedly. Only those mired in blind dogma can't see that.

This thread is about ideology, not policy. The concepts are different.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

This thread is about ideology, not policy. The concepts are different.

No tulip Sherlock.

What good is idealogy if you abandon it in favour of political gain whenever it suits you?

[Moscow Mule]

No tulip Sherlock.

What good is idealogy if you abandon it in favour of political gain whenever it suits you?

Good? Not much.

Handy for us public to identify charlatans though...

[DodgyAgent]

No there are not. On every major issue they have each turned about and stolen each other's policies repeatedly. Only those mired in blind dogma can't see that.

The ideologies are clearly different. How they are expressed in terms of activities and policies is where the confusion lies. For example Tories would naturally believe in there not being a necessity to have a health service, yet politically they know that to not support the NHS would be a disaster. Likewise labour hate business yet they know that without it they would have no money to "share".
Ultimately neither party can completely disguise its true colurs. For example as seen in Tory attitudes to inheritance tax (abolish it) and labour not being able to help itself from taxing for example freelancers out of business. freelancers to labour are the anti christ, yet to the Tories they are the embodiment of Conservatism. And because freelance IT people are such a minority neither party will moderate its ideologies in their dealings with them.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

The ideologies are clearly different. How they are expressed in terms of activities and policies is where the confusion lies. For example Tories would naturally believe in there not being a necessity to have a health service, yet politically they know that to not support the NHS would be a disaster. Likewise labour hate business yet they know that without it they would have no money to "share".
Ultimately they cannot completely describe their true colurs such as Tory attitudes to inheritance tax (abolish it) and labour not being able to help itself from taxing for example freelancers out of business. freelancers to labour are the anti christ, yet to the Tories they are the embodiment of Conservatism. And because freelance IT people are such a minority neither party will moderate its ideologies for or against them.

So I think we are in agreement. There is no point in voting on the basis of idealogy because the parties ignore it and persue political expediency. This leads to the ludicrous situation where both parties have both supported and opposed ID cards (just to take one example) as it suited them.

[DodgyAgent]

So I think we are in agreement. There is no point in voting on the basis of idealogy because the parties ignore it and persue political expediency. This leads to the ludicrous situation where both parties have both supported and opposed ID cards (just to take one example) as it suited them.

Then you vote on issues of trust and competence, in other words anything to get rid of labour.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Then you vote on issues of trust and competence, in other words anything to get rid of labour.

Can't argue with you on that, the country needs a change. I suspect where we would part company is that I felt the same in 1997, wheras you and a majority on here would perhaps prefer a one-party Tory state.

[DodgyAgent]

Can't argue with you on that, the country needs a change. I suspect where we would part company is that I felt the same in 1997, wheras you and a majority on here would perhaps prefer a one-party Tory state.

Oh dear

[Doggy Styles]

Originally Posted by Doggy Styles
This thread is about ideology, not policy. The concepts are different.

No tulip Sherlock.

Nevertheless, it's a point that went right over your head, not that you'd admit it.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Originally Posted by Doggy Styles
This thread is about ideology, not policy. The concepts are different.
Nevertheless, it's a point that went right over your head, not that you'd admit it.

I see; (or according to you, I don't) what a shame you are so unpleasant.