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Public sector cutbacks: Which IT contracts are at risk?

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    #11
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Once unnecessary legislation is removed, ie: ID cards, or tax credits tulip (just tax less people ffs), then the need (for the State) in many of such projects will disappear.
    and then the State will wither away .....

    Oh wait, it doesn't
    Step outside posh boy

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      #12
      Originally posted by Tarquin Farquhar View Post
      Oh wait, it doesn't
      It won't go away, some processes might stay back in the last century but then again it's rather than pay ridiculous amount of money for the system that does not work.

      Set simpler goals - build some foundation which can be improved over many years by in-house teams, simpler requirements but go live quickly. And if you don't go live quickly and if it does not work well then people don't get paid, get blacklisted and never get another Govt funded job again. If you don't like such rules - don't bid.

      Frankly for the amounts spent on such projects this all should be done by internal teams who may use external contractors for some relevant tasks and external vendors supplying base software blocks (say database) or connectivity etc.

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        #13
        Originally posted by AtW View Post
        .. Such projects should be allocated to local firms - they should know that if they succeed then they will be on the real money, but if they fail then they are ***** and will never get to bid for Govt projects.
        But what senior civil servant or minister would want to become a director of a "local firm" when they left their official job?
        Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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          #14
          Originally posted by cojak View Post
          Interesting article this, and bound to bring the sweats to a few people's brows.

          I do fear for my ex-colleagues within the NPfIT programmes.

          Although as most of those were dumped when Tech Mahindra was wheeled in, I'm not too broken-hearted...
          I worked in NPfIT on and off for a year and a half - the CUI project. That's already delivered so there's not much left to cut.

          There were some other NPfIT projects going on in the area but Bob had his fingers in those pies. At least one went tits up.

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            #15
            Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
            But what senior civil servant or minister would want to become a director of a "local firm" when they left their official job?
            10 years ban on taking such jobs (that in any way get Govt funding), if ban is violated then put to prison for the remainder of 10 years.

            Sorted.

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              #16
              Originally posted by AtW View Post
              10 years ban on taking such jobs (that in any way get Govt funding), if ban is violated then put to prison for the remainder of 10 years.

              Sorted.
              What happened to your "I will do the NHS system for 10 million" pitch?

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                #17
                Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                What happened to your "I will do the NHS system for 10 million" pitch?
                Wasn't that Threaded?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                  What happened to your "I will do the NHS system for 10 million" pitch?
                  I've reviewed all the costs involved and came to conclusion that I was materially wrong in my initial estimation.

                  I'd bid for £9 mln

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    It won't go away, some processes might stay back in the last century but then again it's rather than pay ridiculous amount of money for the system that does not work.

                    Set simpler goals - build some foundation which can be improved over many years by in-house teams, simpler requirements but go live quickly. And if you don't go live quickly and if it does not work well then people don't get paid, get blacklisted and never get another Govt funded job again. If you don't like such rules - don't bid.

                    Frankly for the amounts spent on such projects this all should be done by internal teams who may use external contractors for some relevant tasks and external vendors supplying base software blocks (say database) or connectivity etc.
                    I dont often say this about AtW but
                    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                      I dont often say this about AtW but
                      I was going to add there: "Ban agencies and hire direct only" but I felt sorry for your kind.

                      Shortly after that I got email from agency trying to sell services

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