the car's esp system a hinderance in the snow

[Sysman]

Wow! A car with extra sensory perception! How flash!

Extra Sensory Perception is what I thought when I read the title.

ABS once smashed a brake disk on me. Look no brakes!

[SuperZ]

I think the traction control is kicking in before the car has reached the ultimate traction on snow

If traction control kicks in at 15% slippage but on snow the maximum grip of the tyres is at 25% slippage, the ESP will cut the power before optimum grip on snow is reached. Best to disable it temporarily, then enable it again once up the hill.

[Paddy]

Driving on snow and ice my ABS is switched off. My driving technique would not work with it on.

I like to get a feel for the surface through the steering. Braking is not the only factor that locks up wheels, for example turning too sharply will lock the wheels and skidding. I actually use skidding to control the car. Rear wheel drive is great for corners as it is possible to get round just by a little twitch or the steering and controlled acceleration. With FWD I prefer left foot braking to swing the back out when necessary (can’t be done with ABS).

[mudskipper]

When I started a thread about ESP, I got comments about gymnasiums and gladiators! Anyway - got given helpful advice at a road safety course I found myself attending - see link

[RichardCranium]

When I started a thread about ESP, I got comments about gymnasiums and gladiators!

But you came back.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Driving on snow and ice my ABS is switched off. My driving technique would not work with it on.

I like to get a feel for the surface through the steering. Braking is not the only factor that locks up wheels, for example turning too sharply will lock the wheels and skidding. I actually use skidding to control the car. Rear wheel drive is great for corners as it is possible to get round just by a little twitch or the steering and controlled acceleration. With FWD I prefer left foot braking to swing the back out when necessary (can’t be done with ABS).

Hilarious - you just expect anyone else to get out of the way when they encounter you coming sideways around a left hander then?

[Paddy]

Hilarious - you just expect anyone else to get out of the way when they encounter you coming sideways around a left hander then?

I will try and post on Youtube

[threaded]

Hilarious - you just expect anyone else to get out of the way when they encounter you coming sideways around a left hander then?

One of my YouTube vids is of the feet doing a little dance in a rally car.