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What are Tories not doing right?

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    #41
    Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
    People are sick of a two party dictatorship, where nothing much changes. Politicians will behave discracefully, power will corrupt, the economy will go from boom to bust, the same civil servants will continue to run things behind the scenes.

    It's like a pathetic soap opera, and the sadist thing is some people fall for it and actually believe in the system. When the fact is nothing significant ever changes from within the system, change always comes from outside of the political process.
    I tend to agree, apart from the bit about sadism.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Sysman View Post
      True, but they seemed to have given up trying.
      There is a case for saying that they are keeping their powder dry.

      Attack too soon and it will blow over by the election.

      But attacking in the weeks and days leading up to the election maximises the effect on voter intentions.

      Just guessing, like.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
        I tend to agree, apart from the bit about sadism.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
          I tend to agree, apart from the bit about sadism.
          I blame it on the government
          The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

          But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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            #45
            Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
            There wasn't a surplas [sic] in 1997. Labour inherited a deficit - look it up.
            True. The surplus was in 1998/9 (hardly something that Labour can take credit for), and went into deficit shortly after.
            How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

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              #46
              Originally posted by HairyArsedBloke View Post
              True. The surplus was in 1998/9 (hardly something that Labour can take credit for), and went into deficit shortly after.
              Surely taxing of pension funds that Brown Stuff did first thing in the office helped that budget surplus a tad?

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                #47
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                Surely taxing of pension funds that Brown Stuff did first thing in the office helped that budget surplus a tad?
                And sticking to the previous government's spending plans for the first two years.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
                  And sticking to the previous government's spending plans for the first two years.
                  Indeed - so they spent as much as planned before AND got extra tax revenues by robbing pension funds: all taken together has lead to a nice budget surplus.

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                    #49
                    They didn't do themselves any favours by mixing with some rather unsavoury types in the European parliament. Whatever Labour may have done no-one wants to be governed by a bunch of loonies. John Major was centre ground.
                    I'm alright Jack

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by hyperD View Post
                      It's a good question.

                      <snip>

                      So really, to summarise: it's a total disinterest, expecting the state to absolve our responsibilities, a resentment of an unaccountable political elite and the helpless feeling that there isn't a suitable alternative, the self-flagellation of well-off champagne socialist's guilt, the partisanship of deluded voters "My grandaddy voted for x, ma daddy voted for x, so I'm voting for x", and public sector turkeys not voting for christmas...
                      Good post.

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