Iraq and Iran

[Clippy]

All speculation of course, but more than 1 source has said that we're interfering in the Middle East just to keep Israel as the top dog in the region. Not that we're in any way successful, but it could all be part of the "big game"

FTFY.

[gingerjedi]

All speculation of course, but more than 1 source has said that we're interfering in the Middle East just to keep China out. Not that we're in any way successful, but it could all be part of the "big game"

Lots of speculation on the usual conspiracy sites about the Delta airline incident being a 'false flag op' in preparation for possible action in the Yemen, now both the British and US embassies are closed.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

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Originally Posted by Doggy Styles View Post
I've always said that deposing Saddam was a massive blunder.

He was perfect person to make deal with - cheap oil in exchange for support like in old times (minus WMDs).

Oil would have been at $10 now, and lots of problems in the world would not have happened.

Another bonus - Chelski would not have won any titles in that period.

You guys are a disgrace to humanity. You only think of lining your own pockets. Do you know how many million were killed by Saddam? How many millions buried in mass graves, tortured, executed in front of their own families.

Do you even know any Iraqis? They are human beings not just numbers. The invasion got rid of the worst dictator (to his own people) that mankind has witnessed.

You guys are low life scum. I hope one day you face the same torment that Iraqis felt over 40 years so you can remember saying just that.

[AtW]

You guys are a disgrace to humanity. You only think of lining your own pockets. Do you know how many million were killed by Saddam? How many millions buried in mass graves, tortured, executed in front of their own families.

Do you know how many millions were killed by USSR/NKVD/KGB? Yet former KGB agents are now buying London newspapers...

The West supported Saddam pretty heavily back in 80s, he was certainly killing plenty of people back then.

[sunnysan]

Expedience

You guys are a disgrace to humanity. You only think of lining your own pockets. Do you know how many million were killed by Saddam? How many millions buried in mass graves, tortured, executed in front of their own families.

Do you even know any Iraqis? They are human beings not just numbers. The invasion got rid of the worst dictator (to his own people) that mankind has witnessed.

You guys are low life scum. I hope one day you face the same torment that Iraqis felt over 40 years so you can remember saying just that.

Do you know how many people have died owing to human rights abuses in Uzbekistan? Rumour has it one of their favourites is dipping people in boiling water. But they support us in the war on terror so we look the other way, as far as I know we actually gave that government aid.

Do you know how much "collateral damage", how many maimings, deaths and human rights abuses their have been in the ME theatre of war?

If you want to do body counts, war usually kills more people

Personally, sorry to say, but if you buy into this "Saddam was an evil dictator, so we are doing the right thing" cr@p, so be it but IMO, this war, as all wars has been about money and preservation of power.

But even if for one minute I believe the war in Iraq, "was the right thing to do for the people of Iraq", the point I am trying to make is that it appears that all our, money, fire power , lives of soldiers etc has pretty much played into the hands of an fundementalist Islamic regime, ergo we are fighting a war for the benefit of an ideology we are trying to defeat. Suitable quote to sum it, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

[Paddy]

Well said Sunnysan.

Referring to the article in the Independent; it was not written by the Independent but by the Iraq Liberal Party.

[shaunbhoy]

I hope one day you face the same torment that Iraqis felt over 40 years so you can remember saying just that.

Well we have had NL for nearly 13 years, so Yaargghh Boo and Sucks to you!

[sunnysan]

Nl

Well we have had NL for nearly 13 years, so Yaargghh Boo and Sucks to you!

Unfortunately, when new labour are deposed, I dont think we will be able to see Blair and Brown swinging from ropes on dodgy mobile phone footage like we did Saddam.

[shaunbhoy]

Unfortunately, when new labour are deposed, I dont think we will be able to see Blair and Brown swinging from ropes on dodgy mobile phone footage like we did Saddam.

Maybe not.............but it'll still look good on Blu-Ray!!

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Do you know how many millions were killed by USSR/NKVD/KGB? Yet former KGB agents are now buying London newspapers...

The West supported Saddam pretty heavily back in 80s, he was certainly killing plenty of people back then.

I never defended the West. They are just as bad as Saddam for keeping him in power, they had the choice to get rid of him or not in the 1991 uprising but decided to keep him in power.

The West is as bad if not worse than the evil dictators they keep in power. However they did a good thing (regardless of their intentions) in getting rid of Saddam and Iraq and the world will be better for it.