Is IT dead in this country

[swamp]

I don't understand the comparison, don't the engineering companies (full of Chartered Engineers) not have tulipe managers? If not, then how come, what special attributes or training to these managers have that IT managers do not?

I think the difference is more down to expectations, no business expects to undertake an engineering project or to hire engineers without going through the full life cycle (not so easy to offshore maybe?), hmm can you imagine a bridge being built using Agile?

Yes. You simply rebuild the bridge from scratch every time you need a change.

The difference between (real world) engineering and (agile) software development is that you can rebuild your product many many times for free. Even many millions of times. Building a bridge you only have one shot.

[SantaClaus]

I THINK I AM GOING TO CRY ! honestly.

Sorry to put a dampener on things newblood.
But at least you know where you stand!

[minestrone]

Yes. You simply rebuild the bridge from scratch every time you need a change.

The difference between (real world) engineering and (agile) software development is that you can rebuild your product many many times for free. Even many millions of times. Building a bridge you only have one shot.

And your experience of "(real world) engineering" is?

[Zippy]

And your experience of "(real world) engineering" is?

And your assumptions (about swamp) are based on?

[minestrone]

And your assumptions (about swamp) are based on?

I am certainly no expert on the English language but I do know that an assumption cannot be made in a question.

Let swamp answer the question.

[suityou01]

I am certainly no expert on the English language but I do know that an assumption cannot be made in a question.

Let swamp answer the question.

Play nice chaps.

[OrangeHopper]

Engineering projects suffer problems. You should have heard my dad go on about the problems they experienced building the first Advanced Gas Cooled nuclear power station Dungeness B. It took about twice the originally estimated time to build.

[OrangeHopper]

The simple answer is that IT is not dead in this country and will never die. In fact it will increase from year to year. The problem is simply whether UK engineers will be used to satisfy the demand.

[minestrone]

Play nice chaps.

I am simply asking a poster to validate his comments. If you are going to make bold statements on a public forum then they should be scrutinized.

[Zippy]

I am certainly no expert on the English language but I do know that an assumption cannot be made in a question.

Let swamp answer the question.

Fair enough - poor choice of words on my part. I'm sure you understand the word 'implication' though.