Msc in computing

[PM-Junkie]

what do you mean by that frankie? what is an 'advanced' msc? and to what level do you mean 'understand'? it would take a v. good msc to be deeply conversant with the ins & outs of the iso/osi layer model for example, including the maths of the tcp protocol and self-correcting binary transmission codes. however, if you're simply taking about here is a server and there is a client, then yes, a gcse in woodwork ought to cover it.

and anyway, why sad? would that not be a good requirement? degree courses can be and are often very good, with content that far outlasts your obsolescence, and i am always happy to accord respect to the msc, whether or not it adds value to the job in hand. or do you reckon we'd be better off without them?

A course will tell you that the OSI model has 7 layers....experience tells you it actually has 8 layers.

...the 8th being politics.

[mrdonuts]

what gets me is there are lots of pretend generalised msc courses which devalue real advanced specialised MSc courses as unfortunately many people cant tell the difference

[Tingles]

A course will tell you that the OSI model has 7 layers....experience tells you it actually has 8 layers.

...the 8th being politics.

Very incisive.

May I use that?

[scotspine]

yes, very funny pmj

frankie, i think we're all agreed that any education is better than none at all...as milan would say, every little helps.

[minestrone]

I'm sure most posters on this site are pretty much on the top of their game in their chosen specialised subjects. Quite a few posters have came in and stated that they have came to IT from a conversion course so I do not see this type of course being a problem.

I will always see myself as a trained butcher who studied engineering and maths that now works in IT.

Until we have an accepted regulated certification body with rules on who pratices IT then we will always be a mongrel skill force.

[Francko]

yes, very funny pmj

frankie, i think we're all agreed that any education is better than none at all...as milan would say, every little helps.

Totally agreed there. I always said education is important. And surely an advanced MSc is better than an intermediate level MSc (no sh1t Sherlock ).

What strikes me is that some people would like to be recognised that they are better in their job just because they did a more difficult type of study. Rather pretentious.

[minestrone]

Is a Masters not just a Masters, I have never known anyone to say they have an advanced Masters.

[Fred Bloggs]

Engineering degrees have morphed into MEng's now. At least those accredited for CEng registration have. BEng and BEng(Hons) now doesn't get you CEng, it gets you IEng registration.

[larson]

In many Master of Science postgraduate degrees you do get a great chance to concentrate on certain technologies and project management.

However, surely the real reason university is popular with employers is that it teaches people how to learn and critically analyse data and information. With sub-standard universities in the UK there are still going to be those types who are perhaps just good at learning information and passing exams, but I did not do a generic computing course. I wanted to get into computer networking, and really enjoyed the honours degree in that area. The traditional universities do not offer these specific courses in IT or computing, but I think it's good to have seperation. I learned the theory of networking, in great detail, which was great for starting work whilst also at university.

At school you are taught that the best jobs are the structured professional jobs such as training as a dentist, lawyer, doctor. Everybody is different, and it is clear that university to create doctors works very well, with the exposure to reality in a work environment from very early on in the degree.

You'll maybe find the people advertising all their qualifications are trying to make up for the fact people think they are next to useless.

[PM-Junkie]

Is a Masters not just a Masters, I have never known anyone to say they have an advanced Masters.

A masters is an advanced degree...I think that's where the confusion has arisen. I'm with you - "advanced masters" is a new one on me too.