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    #11
    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    "They get involved once the Old Bill feel they have sufficient evidence for a prosecution"

    And has that happened?
    Given they have arrested him, you'd think so, wouldn't you?

    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    "the Police probably consulted the CPS prior to his arrest"

    Bollocks, the police present a case and then that is decided upon, you are talking out of your arse here.
    I would have thought they had enough information to present a case prior to his arrest. I got the impression from previous high profile stories that the CPS can get involved prior to a suspect being arrested, particularly when it is celebrities or politicians involved. Certainly when it is decided these cases will be dropped as not being in the public interest, it is the CPS that is quoted as making the decision.

    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    "In think that's how the process works"

    That is not how it worked when I worked for the police.
    Aha! Some first hand expert knowledge. That's useful.

    How does it work then? At what stage would they get involved in this instance?
    My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
      Given they have arrested him, you'd think so, wouldn't you?

      I would have thought they had enough information to present a case prior to his arrest. I got the impression from previous high profile stories that the CPS can get involved prior to a suspect being arrested, particularly when it is celebrities or politicians involved. Certainly when it is decided these cases will be dropped as not being in the public interest, it is the CPS that is quoted as making the decision.

      Aha! Some first hand expert knowledge. That's useful.

      How does it work then? At what stage would they get involved in this instance?
      So what you thought of as fact is now something you are asking me on.

      "you'd think so, wouldn't you"

      "I would have thought"

      "I got the impression"

      Hardly the...

      "I am so pleased the Crown Prosecution Service and the Police have seen it worthwhile to invest the necessary time and resources into hunting down this sick criminal"

      You are using a source, which you discount, as evidence.

      If you want to enter into the arena of debate on this then get something better in your hand.

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        #13


        Does this thread now go under the category of "When flippant comments go bad"?

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          #14
          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          So what you thought of as fact is now something you are asking me on.
          "you'd think so, wouldn't you"
          "I would have thought"
          "I got the impression"
          Hardly the... "I am so pleased the Crown Prosecution Service and the Police have seen it worthwhile to invest the necessary time and resources into hunting down this sick criminal"

          You are using a source, which you discount, as evidence. If you want to enter into the arena of debate on this then get something better in your hand.
          I tried:

          Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
          Aha! Some first hand expert knowledge. That's useful.

          How does it work then? At what stage would they get involved in this instance?
          My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
            If the law has been broken and a complaint has been made what else are they supposed to do? We wouldn't really want the police making value judgements about what, or worse who, they should and should not be investigating would we?
            Fairy nuffski.

            It was the Daily Mail running a witch hunt that got up my nose. There are so many things wrong with the world that the media could apply themselves to, yet don't. Instead they publish reams of tulipe about 'celebrities', press releases as 'news', and undergraduates' research papers as 'science'.
            My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
              Does this thread now go under the category of "When flippant comments go bad"?
              I think this whole matter is a non-issue and does not warrant either the media witch hunt or the consequential investigation.

              It certainly comes under "When General goes anal".
              My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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                #17
                Now you ask, the police would present evidence to the CPS and then the CPS would take it from there, it is a one way street, police -> cps -> court.

                I would not take the paper's statement that the police are involved in any great detail. The paper would have phoned the cops and then they got a short yadda yadda. The 'spokesman' will probably be lifting a drunk right now.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
                  I think this whole matter is a non-issue and does not warrant either the media witch hunt or the consequential investigation.

                  It certainly comes under "When General goes anal".
                  Yes it is, one asks why you say that after launching into an attack on the police and CPS?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    Now you ask,
                    Twice, actually.

                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    the police would present evidence to the CPS and then the CPS would take it from there, it is a one way street, police -> cps -> court.
                    As process documentation goes, it's certainly concise. But it excluded what we were talking about: before and/or after arrest? And the instances where they go the other way up the one-way-street and the CPS tells the Police they do not think it is worth progressing.

                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    I would not take the paper's statement that the police are involved in any great detail. The paper would have phoned the cops and then they got a short yadda yadda. The 'spokesman' will probably be lifting a drunk right now.
                    They said they had arrested him. I should hope their notoriously comprehensive record-keeping and arrest procedures would mean a degree of confidence could be placed in that statement. So that would mean the Police are indeed involved.
                    My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                      Yes it is, one asks why you say that after launching into an attack on the police and CPS?
                      I said it before as well.
                      My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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