Climategate

[RichardCranium]

With AGW all we get is apocalyptic and blood curdling warnings and solutions that may not be very green at all.

I am normally very good at online research and can usually get to the root arguments of a subject quite quickly, then find peer-reviewed evidence to support one side more than the other.

I bowed out of having an opinion on the global warming thing ages ago as there is so much vested interest out there confusing the science and poor work being incorrectly reported as 'proof' or even 'evidence'.

I worry that HAB is right; the arts-graduate meedja are going to use this to debunk science even more and make society even worse than it already is as a consequence.

This ongoing dumbing down of the population could end up killing millions.

[EternalOptimist]

I am normally very good at online research and can usually get to the root arguments of a subject quite quickly, then find peer-reviewed evidence to support one side more than the other.

I bowed out of having an opinion on the global warming thing ages ago as there is so much vested interest out there confusing the science and poor work being incorrectly reported as 'proof' or even 'evidence'.

I worry that HAB is right; the arts-graduate meedja are going to use this to debunk science even more and make society even worse than it already is as a consequence.

This ongoing dumbing down of the population could end up killing millions.

The nice thing about being a sceptic is that you are not saying 'there is no AGW', you are saying 'Please convince me'

They are not going to convince me with spin, hype or insults,
being painted as a holocaust denier is not doing their cause any good at all

[suityou01]

Big brother censors google

Linky

A fantastic article written by Christopher Brooker of the London Telegraph exposing the climate change fraud rocketed to the very top of a Google News search for “global warming,” only to disappear hours later.

[gingerjedi]

Linky

I also found this on there.

BBC bias??

[TimberWolf]

Linky

He's a known loony:

Via his long-running column in the UK's Sunday Telegraph, Booker has claimed that man-made global warming was "disproved" in 2008[1], that white asbestos is "chemically identical to talcum powder" and poses a "non-existent risk" to human health[2], that "scientific evidence to support [the] belief that inhaling other people's smoke causes cancer simply does not exist"[3] and that there is "no proof that BSE causes CJD in humans"[4]. He has also defended the theory of Intelligent Design, maintaining that Darwinians "rest their case on nothing more than blind faith and unexamined a priori assumptions".[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Booker

[suityou01]

So, in conclusion ....

[Bagpuss]

...some people on here believe journalists more than they do scientists.
Post links to articles that have been seized on by creationists and
this is despite the fact that without science we wouldn't have this forum to voice our little opinions, instead we'd be sat in the dark going "Ugg". It's the way forward, apparently.

[TimberWolf]

In conclusion both sides probably have ulterior motives and likely will be cashing in. Best not to believe climate change exists or not exists. I think that's the idea I will push when my book and DVD's come out; telling people not to be pulled in by either side of the debate.

[gingerjedi]

Two more contradictory snippets:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8387137.stm

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225700046908

I'm going right off the BBC of late.

[EternalOptimist]

So, in conclusion ....

There is no shame in taking the 'I am just not sure' position.
Watch out for emotive language and blood curdling warnings.