If the market picks up sometime

[BolshieBastard]

old timer here.

I am on the same hourly rate now, as when I started out. 35 quid an hour.

When times are good, I pick and choose and take the plummy contracts. (60 quid an hour for 2 years once) and work solid.

when times are average, I take what I can, take a few holidays.

when times are tough, I stick with the client rather than jacking it (thanks missus) and take extended holidays.

no grudges, no hard feelings, no recriminations.

its business.

orrect.

The OP is talking a pipedream IME about taking revenge.

What a piss poor mindset.

[EternalOptimist]

orrect.

The OP is talking a pipedream IME about taking revenge.

What a piss poor mindset.

I know.

but Mitch is an ok guy, I've been reading his stuff with interest.
possibly a young bull with high testosterone levels, hence the


I AM RANTOR


persona.
special abilities

can spot injustice at 5000 m at night
can look handsome, even with mud on my face
can work in ADAM without mentioning weed

But a nice guy

[milanbenes]

EO,

are you suggesting he simply needs to go and pull a bird ?

ie, it would appear he hasn't been getting enough lately ?

Milan.

[EternalOptimist]

EO,

are you suggesting he simply needs to go and pull a bird ?

ie, it would appear he hasn't been getting enough lately ?

Milan.

I really, really , really

doubt that's his problem.
Anger management, thats where I would put my money

[milanbenes]

EO,

you seem confident, are you and he ?

Milan.

[EternalOptimist]

EO,

you seem confident, are you and he ?

Milan.

not yet.

but I live in hope

[minestrone]

orrect.

The OP is talking a pipedream IME about taking revenge.

What a piss poor mindset.

Bollocks. "a piss poor mindset", it is called being a good contractor and knowing how to seek out extra money.

First thing you should be doing in an upturn is planning the "They will not survive without me so I'm leaving if you say that rate to me again" or the "it's not as much as I am being offered already" call.

Agents and Clients have been bleating on about rate cuts for 2 years now, the OP is right, when the worm turns it is out turn to bat and bat hard we all should.

You have been trying to prove you are hard in negotiations nearly every day you are on here but it looks like you know feck all aboout the industry as we all suspected from the start. Pussy.

[suityou01]

How do you plan to revenge the rate cuts, agent BS, unpaid overtime (see blackenedbiker's tale of woe), late payment of invoices and other tulipe we've had to put up with for the last 18 months?

Just how high can we hike the rates?

Shall we then all build up such enormous savings accounts that we can say to clientco/agent 'fuq you' as soon as the words 'rate' and 'cut' are mentioned in the same paragraph? Wouldn't you love to do that?

Or shall we all end up buying flash cars, boozing all the money away and then tulipting ourselves in glorious technicolour when the next recession comes along?

It won't. It's going to get much worse until the powers that be force through their agenda. It's kind of a global change management thing. Until people hurt enough to embrace the change it will continue.

But then, after this, in 3 or 4 years time, fill your boots.
I'm not helping am I?

Sometimes people shouldn't post. Sorry.

[EternalOptimist]

Bollocks. "a piss poor mindset", it is called being a good contractor and knowing how to seek out extra money.

I don't get that at all.
First of all, the market for my particular skills doesn't seem to move in sympathy with any other cycle i can recognise.
Secondly, I dont think its wise to get @rsey when the market is such a small one.
They all know each other probably


maybe it works for you son. But not for everyone

[milanbenes]

hmmm,

I think we're all getting confused here,

let's take a step back,

all this, 'the OP' etc, and then quoting and quoting it's confusing who said what and who is replying to what

can we all please from now on, follow the MilanBenes Invoicing Ltd example and explicitly name the poster we are referring to

tia

Milan.