Look in the Mirror and get arrested under secrets act

[Phoenix]

I'm afraid Phoenix that this is what we are reduced to. If i had personal inside knowledge of the documents, I couldn't reveal them. All we are left with is a few links to prove that this ever incurred the wrath of the authorities.

If you have no interest in the powers being used to suppress world news, then that's fine. I understand you have more important matters to blather on about, like George Best. Don't let me detain you. Bye

I have interest in the subject. Just no interest in the Daily Mirror's view on it. I would much rather hear yours.

[zathras]

I have interest in the subject. Just no interest in the Daily Mirror's view on it. I would much rather hear yours.

Well have mine instead.

We have a government that is trying to supress the freedom of the press, over an issue which arose while fighting a war which ostensibly was trying to give to another country (among other things) freedom of the press

- go figure

This is just another example of how the ancient freedoms in this country seem to be eroded - to the point that it is not the contents of the memo that is the story, it is the memo itself.

[Phoenix]

Now that's more like it Zathras!

But this is not a new thing is it?
Government/Countries have always tried a little secret manipulation of International situations, haven't they?

[The Lone Gunman]

Now that's more like it Zathras!

But this is not a new thing is it?
Government/Countries have always tried a little secret manipulation of International situations, haven't they?

How would you know that? The only way we have heard that is because the meeja have told us and you have told us you are not interested in the views expressed on the news, in the press or on the internet, or have you had access to evidence the rest of us have not been privvy to?

[Phoenix]

How would you know that? The only way we have heard that is because the meeja have told us and you have told us you are not interested in the views expressed on the news, in the press or on the internet, or have you had access to evidence the rest of us have not been privvy to?

Do you only form your opinions from whatever comic you happen to have read this morning?

[The Lone Gunman]

Do you only form your opinions from whatever comic you happen to have read this morning?

No I tend to read around a subject, trim off the top and bottom 10% fanatics and guess at somewhere around the middle of whats left.

[Phoenix]

No I tend to read around a subject, trim off the top and bottom 10% fanatics and guess at somewhere around the middle of whats left.

So you read more than just the Media properganda!
Congrats and welcome to the real world.
Unlike some of these "Cut'n Paste" junkies on here that think they know about the workings of the world because the "Voice of the Mirror" says so.

[The Lone Gunman]

So you read more than just the Media properganda!
Congrats and welcome to the real world.
Unlike some of these "Cut'n Paste" junkies on here that think they know about the workings of the world because the "Voice of the Mirror" says so.

This might be difficult to understand, but this is a discussion forum. To have any reasonable debate someone has to propose an issue. That is very often a column from a newspaper, sometimes people propose it as brilliant and sometimes they rubbish it, but they post stuff they find interesting and worthy of discussion. Some people post stuff just to wind others up even......

HTH

[datestamp]

Thanks Lone Gunman, I wasn't trying to wind anybody up, but I know what you mean.

Phoenix:

I am sorry that you are so allergic to cut and paste. Sad.

Unlike some of these "Cut'n Paste" junkies on here that think they know about the workings of the world because the "Voice of the Mirror" says so.

Fraid not. I don't read the Mirror. But I did watch Channel 4 news last night. I could have come on here and said, "somebody thinks something is wrong somewhere". Most intelligent people would say "yer what?".

So I posted the background information that is currently available. As the news article involved the Daily Mirror, unfortunately, some material is shown from the Daily Mirror.

The current "evidence" doesn't prove too much by itself. However, a story such as this would normally provoke the reaction from Whitehall of "No, you are mis-informed". Alternatively, Tony Blair for example would have started legal proceedings in the High Court to protect his "good name", and the whole lot could have slid into sub-judice.

However, the approach of blowing the whistle for the Official Secrets Act is a very bizarre thing to do. I'm sorry that I didn't have hours to sit around on here and explain the subtleties of the matter to you first thing today. But you are obviously such an intelligent chap that you sussed this out for yourself immediately, and your shouts of "More quoted Drivel?" was just a smokescreen just to make us falsely think you might be a rampant retard.

You have now had the background to this story and the chance to discuss some issues arising from it. I certainly don't know the "Truth" in this situation. But I am interested in the use of the Official Secrets Act to hold down a story that in all probability would have been ignored if published in an unfettered manner. I look forward to any further leaks that dribble out of strange corners as this story progresses. It will be of interest to see if the Freedom of Information Act in the States can be of any help in clearing up this matter.

Now go and shout about George Best. You know you want to.

[Phoenix]

By the way! where did Zathras go?
Probably to copy another interesting piece from the newspaper.
We can all do that.
And in case you haven't noticed (In your little blinkered news scapbook of a world) I am making reasonable debate. This Thread proposed an issue , and I disagreed, only for you and your "Copy and Paste " club to gang up on me and defend the views of the biased Press.
Press freedom is laughable unless you read all, and read well. For the Daily Mirror is biased in its reporting.
That is why I object to the copy and paste from the newspapers directly (any Newspaper!). If you want to bring up a subject then do so in a personal manner, not the lasy arse "GOD is this true" sensational way that is being done here!

It's good night from him!