Anyone watch the Derren Brown Casino Event?

[Bunk]

He was trying to guess where the ball would land on a roulette wheel by judging the speed of the ball and the speed of the wheel. He would then calculate in his mind where the ball might bounce and eventually land and place his bet accordingly. It's a technique that has been done before in casinos but using a computer to perform the calculations and even then it was only able to narrow it down to a group of numbers. He claimed he could do it in the same way but all in his head, and be able to calculate exactly which single number the ball would land on.

Oh, and he got it wrong. But he did guess the number next to the one the ball landed on.

[d000hg]

There's no way he would be allowed to win and take the money. Do you guys really think he can predict where the ball is going to land? Duh <pulls best gurning face>

Yes, no more than he can really predict the winning lottery numbers. But the question is why this one failed.

What does everyone make of his apparent super-hypnosis powers to get the £5k? Am I right that just because Channel4 put up a "no stooges were used in this show" that doesn't have to be true and can be part of the show?

[TimberWolf]

Yes, no more than he can really predict the winning lottery numbers. But the question is why this one failed.

What does everyone make of his apparent super-hypnosis powers to get the £5k? Am I right that just because Channel4 put up a "no stooges were used in this show" that doesn't have to be true and can be part of the show?

I didn't see it, but I imagine the casino were in on it and he was never going to win, only get close.

[shoes]

It was a fiction, they all are. Would you be talking about it less if it landed on the number he predicted? That's why it didn't.

[d000hg]

It was a fiction, they all are. Would you be talking about it less if it landed on the number he predicted? That's why it didn't.

Then why did he get ALL numbers on the lottery, instead of a more believable 5? I was expecting the casino show to end not only with him getting the right number, but revealing he'd tattooed the correct number on the other guys chest weeks ago.

[cybersquatter]

Anyone who thinks it was live shoud look at a replay.

As he walks up to the table, the croupier clearly says 16. But if you look closely at the next shot, the ball has landed on 13.

End If.

[Andy2]

What does everyone make of his apparent super-hypnosis powers to get the £5k? Am I right that just because Channel4 put up a "no stooges were used in this show" that doesn't have to be true and can be part of the show?

AFAIK You can't hypnotise someone who is not willing to be hypnotised
also you can't force anyone to give you 5 grands even if he is hypnotised
its all staged

[BrilloPad]

There's no way he would be allowed to win and take the money. Do you guys really think he can predict where the ball is going to land? Duh <pulls best gurning face>

But if you were allowed a computer it is possible to predict it : or at least get very close.

Which was what Darren did.

[TimberWolf]

But if you were allowed a computer it is possible to predict it : or at least get very close.

Which was what Darren did.

Even with a computer the odds are small you'd get close on one particular run. Computers just help swing he odds in a statistical way, and no improvement in technology is going to consistently get you close, as tiny changes in initial conditions radically alters where the ball ends up. The probability of Brown doing in his head are effectively zero. It was just a trick.

[Addanc]

Even with a computer the odds are small you'd get close on one particular run. Computers just help swing he odds in a statistical way, and no improvement in technology is going to consistently get you close, as tiny changes in initial conditions radically alters where the ball ends up. The probability of Brown doing in his head are effectively zero. It was just a trick.

I believe that using a computer allows the ball drop to be predicted to a segment of the wheel.