The Power of Christianity

[sasguru]

"Well, uh, before you make any rash decisions, let me just remind you that the church is changing to meet the needs of today's young Christians."

Are you changing enough, is the question. Do you have rave parties fuelled by Ecstacy? Orgies with young nubiles? Eh? I ask you!

[Chico]

Difficult question, but I am convinced there is no God. Will that do?

Depend on how you qualify it. If you are of the ilk unless I touch him and see him etc I am not convinced that there is a God because of all the evil in the world, natural disasters etc then you are an agnostic. If however you profess there is no God, in fact you claim that there cannot be a God period – and nothing ever will change your mind etc then you are an atheist and that is an illogical position to hold. There is a distinction and an important one at that.

[Ned Flanders]

I've done everything the Bible says - even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!

[Reverend Lovejoy]

Are you changing enough, is the question. Do you have rave parties fuelled by Ecstacy? Orgies with young nubiles? Eh? I ask you!

"Today's Christian doesn't think he needs God. He's got his Hi Fi, his boob tube, and his instant pizza pie..."

[DodgyAgent]

Depend on how you qualify it. If you are of the ilk unless I touch him and see him etc I am not convinced that there is a God because of all the evil in the world, natural disasters etc then you are an agnostic. If however you profess there is no God, in fact you claim that there cannot be a God period – and nothing ever will change your mind etc then you are an atheist and that is an illogical position to hold. There is a distinction and an important one at that.

The argument that you present that suggests that atheism is an illogical "position to hold" applies equally to the argument that says there is a god. Neither argument is supported by any physical definate proof/touch him feel him. So the only logical position to hold is agnostic.

[The Lone Gunman]

Depend on how you qualify it. If you are of the ilk unless I touch him and see him etc I am not convinced that there is a God because of all the evil in the world, natural disasters etc then you are an agnostic. If however you profess there is no God, in fact you claim that there cannot be a God period – and nothing ever will change your mind etc then you are an atheist and that is an illogical position to hold. There is a distinction and an important one at that.

Therein lies the problem. I do not believe there is a God and nothing is ever going to change that except possibly one thing. If God actualy turned up, and even the most convinced would be a fool to deny the actuality.
There is no God.

Why do you say it is illogical to be atheist? Dont give me all the rubbish about infinite possibilities. To argue that point would mean that you also believe in the possibility that God may not exist and you are worshipping a myth.
I believe the atheist position is the correct one in a logical sense.
The belief in God is the illogical position. To base your whole life on myth and legend would seem somewhat of a waste if it turns out wrong.

As a logical question would you require someone to believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and that the moon is made of green cheese untill we can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that they dont exist?

You carry on following your delusions dear buy, it is my belief that you and any other believers are quite mad, but as long as your faith doesnt make you dangerous I am willing to ignore it.

[AlfredJPruffock]

OK .

Let settle this debate once and for all.

If there is a God , then I volunteer to be hit by one of his ligthining bolts by 5 pm CET time and if there is not a God I will post here after 5pm CET.

Its very overcast rainy and high degree of storms here, so I think its a fair test.

Lets see who is right and who is wrorng.

Keep tuned folks.

PS just popping out for lunch so If we dont meet no more in this world I will see you in next ...well if there is one , bien sur !

"I'm not frightened of dying, any time will do"

[The Lone Gunman]

OK .

Let settle this debate once and for all.

If there is a God , then I volunteer to be hit by one of his ligthining bolts by 5 pm CET time and if there is not a God I will post here after 5pm CET.

Its very overcast rainy and high degree of storms here, so I think its a fair test.

Lets see who is right and who is wrorng.

Keep tuned folks.

PS jsut popping out for lunch so Id we dont meet no more in this world I iwll see you in next ...well if there is one , bien sur !

"I'm not frightened of dying, any time will do"

I dont think this is a fair test, you may be struck by a random act of weather.

[hyperD]

How about we get a traditional god believer and a convicted murderer in a hospital under controlled conditions, stop their hearts, wait for 6 minutes then revive them while filming the whole experience, monitoring their brainwaves and asking them what happened.

If the god believer sees a white light and the murderer sees a wall of darkness then at least we've proved absolutely nothing.

[Reverend Lovejoy]

"I remember another gentle visitor from the heavens, he came in peace and then died, only to come back to life, and his name was E.T., the extra terestrial. I loved that little guy."