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No point waiting for cheap houses....

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    #21
    Originally posted by swamp View Post
    If you rent a house you can save lots of money and buy a house outright in twenty years. In that time period if you're clever you can jump in and buy when the market is low.

    I am about to rent a house. The (likely) rent is cheaper than the interest on a typical mortgage to buy.
    absolutely spot on.

    Live in a hole, save like mad, bide your time, buy cheap sell dear



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      #22
      Originally posted by GreenerGrass View Post
      Thats fair enough if rents are very low in your area, prices are going down, you have brilliant market timing, and great willpower not to spend the savings on fast cars, women and drink.
      But in my area to rent a similar house would cost at least double the interest based on a 4% rate mortgage.
      A repayment mortgage over 15 years is just a couple or few hundred quid a month more than renting, and paying down the capital at a much quicker rate than you could save by renting.
      The last time I asked where this was the case I got the answer "Aberdeen".

      Anywhere else, normal houses rent at about 5% of value which is less than the cost of mortgage (at rates obtainable today) plus insurance plus maintenance.

      For "executive" houses the equation is even less in favour of owning.

      tim

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        #23
        Originally posted by Lockhouse View Post
        It all depends how large your deposit is. Obviously if you have a big deposit, it's way cheaper than renting.
        Then you are losing the the interest that you could earn on the money (currently 4% for a two year bond).

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          #24
          Originally posted by tim123 View Post
          The last time I asked where this was the case I got the answer "Aberdeen".

          Anywhere else, normal houses rent at about 5% of value which is less than the cost of mortgage (at rates obtainable today) plus insurance plus maintenance.

          For "executive" houses the equation is even less in favour of owning.

          tim
          Whatever, this is in the south east, near London, good transport links, but reasonable house values compared to renting. I can't speak for the whole country but it works for me.

          Your other point about investing the monthly savings, when inflation returns you will struggle to beat it by much, and when houses start creeping up again and rents rise then renting will be pointless.
          But if you can tolerate living in a craphole for 20 years to save for a house outright and that works for you financially then fine.

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            #25
            Originally posted by tim123 View Post
            The last time I asked where this was the case I got the answer "Aberdeen".

            Anywhere else, normal houses rent at about 5% of value which is less than the cost of mortgage (at rates obtainable today) plus insurance plus maintenance.

            For "executive" houses the equation is even less in favour of owning.

            tim

            Aberdeen is famous for its Grey Slates.

            Thats fair enough if rents are very low in your area, prices are going down, you have brilliant market timing, and great willpower not to spend the savings on fast cars, women and drink.

            What else is money for ?
            Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 7 August 2009, 08:14.

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              #26
              I guess the greater fool has arrived.

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                #27
                Originally posted by GreenerGrass View Post
                Whatever, this is in the south east, near London, good transport links, but reasonable house values compared to renting. I can't speak for the whole country but it works for me.
                I don't believe you

                Please tell me where in the SE the normal range of houses can be bought at a rental yield of more that 5% (for a non-student type lets). I don't believe such a location exists.

                Originally posted by GreenerGrass View Post
                Your other point about investing the monthly savings, when inflation returns you will struggle to beat it by much, and when houses start creeping up again and rents rise then renting will be pointless.
                But if you can tolerate living in a craphole for 20 years to save for a house outright and that works for you financially then fine.
                These factors just don't affect the decision. The equation is: whilst it is chaper to rent than to buy, you rent. When it becomes cheaper to buy than to rent, you buy.

                No-one said that you decide today to rent for 20 years.

                tim

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