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How the feck did we win WWII?

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    #31
    Originally posted by Menelaus View Post
    Marx?
    No, threaded himself...
    Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
    threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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      #32
      Originally posted by MrMark View Post
      There's some harrowing stuff on the Normandy battles on BBC4 right now
      I saw it earlier and couldn't watch on. I'm an ex-green wearer who did a couple of gigs but nothing nearly as bad as D-Day and even though people coming back from AFG now will have had a tough time it'll be nothing compared to the lads who did 1944.

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        #33
        Originally posted by threaded View Post
        Wars would still have occurred, it is a natural human condition, many suggest that humans are genetically selected to survive in an environment of continuous warfare.

        Peace is an unnatural state for human society, it requires conflict, otherwise it becomes decadent.
        My neighbour has not cut his side of the hedge for 8 months, i'm getting tooled up and ringing his door bell tonight so we can go toe to toe. When the police ask me why I stabbed him I can say "threaded said I would be decadent unless I got some conflict, natural human condition, it's genetics"

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          #34
          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          My neighbour has not cut his side of the hedge for 8 months, i'm getting tooled up and ringing his door bell tonight so we can go toe to toe. When the police ask me why I stabbed him I can say "threaded said I would be decadent unless I got some conflict, natural human condition, it's genetics"
          Well, in this case one could talk of civilisation. You should give the neighbour fair warning. Yet, one should confer with your other neighbours first so you're not nemo iudex in causa sua.
          Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
          threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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            #35
            We lost WWII, together with Germany. America won.

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              #36
              Just saw a clip from today with McBroon referring to Omaha beach as Obama beach - wtf?

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                #37
                Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                We lost WWII, together with Germany. America won.
                It really depends what you define as lost. WW2 was in my opinion a 'good ' war in that morally it was right and proper to stand up against an evil regime - it was not a colonial war
                It would have been far far easier after the fall of France and the evacuation from Dunkirk to have sued for peace with Germany, British cabinet ministers like Halifax were in favour of doing so & we could have saved the destruction of UK cities and 67000 civilian casualties.
                To our eternal credit we chose not to, and Churchill's "Fight them on the beaches" speech sums up for me everything that is good and correct about the British character, and it is the only conflict of the 20th century that I would willingly participate in & also ask my sons to fight.
                Without the continuation of the British & Commonwealth forces would the extra troops and resources lost in the Battle of Britain and African campaign being available for the fight in the East against Russia have changed the outcome.. possibly. Could there have been a Western front without Britain - impossible.
                That we needed the resources of America and the second front in the East to conquer Germany is undeniable, and in the process we bankrupted the nation and collapsed our Empire leading to the rise of America power & if that is your definition of losing then IMHO it was a price worth paying but I believe the US was tainted by non involvement at an earlier stage.
                How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by zeitghost
                  The destruction of the British Empire was an American aim... I'm sure they're very happy with the results.

                  Oddly, dear old Adolph seems to have admired the British Empire...
                  Indeed... that would have been one of the main considerations for suing for peace- we keep the Empire - he got Europe
                  How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Troll View Post
                    Indeed... that would have been one of the main considerations for suing for peace- we keep the Empire - he got Europe
                    His regime would have imploded a lot earlier, lacking an external threat, too. Which would have saved millions of lives.

                    Yet I'm pretty sure the Americans would have kicked off against the Japs anyway, and that might well have dragged us in on the Jap side. As another poster commented an American aim was the destruction of the British, and Japanese empires, and the takeover of the various European colonial interests in the Pacific.
                    Insanity: repeating the same actions, but expecting different results.
                    threadeds website, and here's my blog.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by zeitghost
                      The destruction of the British Empire was an American aim... I'm sure they're very happy with the results.

                      Oddly, dear old Adolph seems to have admired the British Empire...
                      Will they be so happy when China overtakes them?

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