Expensive contractors, take responsibility for your work!

[TheFaQQer]

(e) hiring a decent tester and sticking him in the middle of your developers to write test cases, execute unit tests and fetch cups of coffee

And would you happen to know of such a person, Mich?

[suityou01]

No you wouldn't, you'd initialise the pointer to a known value - safety first.

I saw no problem with the initial code. Slightly longer winded, but it initialised the pointer to NULL which is good practice IMVHO.

Longer winded sometimes reads better as well.

[suityou01]

aussielong = NULL;

[Mich the Tester]

And would you happen to know of such a person, Mich?

Erm, possibly, but he's contracted right now. Oops, must go and fetch coffee!

[original PM]

I expect (and I get) my developers to deliver code to me which works - in that I can test the system and do not get any form of error message.

I then expect the team taking delivery of the new code to do some acceptance testing to make sure that the application does what they expect it to do.

I expect both parties to take responsibiity for their actions.

I also expect (and get) all parties in any of my projects to take a certain amount of responsilbility to ensuring the overall goal of the project is met - therefore even when it is not someones specific job they may have knowledge in a certain area which will reduce the risk of failure and they are expected to contribute that knowledge.

What I do not expect is for some half-assed jump up fu<k wit to come back with (in their view) smart assed comments which are derogatory to other members of the team just because they happen to not be employed by the client company.

As that will often result in me ripping your fe<king windpipe out you jumped up little muppets.

[Amiga500]

I expect (and I get) my developers to deliver code to me which works - in that I can test the system and do not get any form of error message.

I then expect the team taking delivery of the new code to do some acceptance testing to make sure that the application does what they expect it to do.

I expect both parties to take responsibiity for their actions.

I also expect (and get) all parties in any of my projects to take a certain amount of responsilbility to ensuring the overall goal of the project is met - therefore even when it is not someones specific job they may have knowledge in a certain area which will reduce the risk of failure and they are expected to contribute that knowledge.

What I do not expect is for some half-assed jump up fu<k wit to come back with (in their view) smart assed comments which are derogatory to other members of the team just because they happen to not be employed by the client company.

As that will often result in me ripping your fe<king windpipe out you jumped up little muppets.

Get over yourself Shirley

[Churchill]

I expect (and I get) my developers to deliver code to me which works - in that I can test the system and do not get any form of error message.

I then expect the team taking delivery of the new code to do some acceptance testing to make sure that the application does what they expect it to do.

I expect both parties to take responsibiity for their actions.

I also expect (and get) all parties in any of my projects to take a certain amount of responsilbility to ensuring the overall goal of the project is met - therefore even when it is not someones specific job they may have knowledge in a certain area which will reduce the risk of failure and they are expected to contribute that knowledge.

What I do not expect is for some half-assed jump up fu<k wit to come back with (in their view) smart assed comments which are derogatory to other members of the team just because they happen to not be employed by the client company.

As that will often result in me ripping your fe<king windpipe out you jumped up little muppets.

I think we've attended the same course!

[suityou01]

I expect (and I get) my developers to deliver code to me which works - in that I can test the system and do not get any form of error message.

I then expect the team taking delivery of the new code to do some acceptance testing to make sure that the application does what they expect it to do.

I expect both parties to take responsibiity for their actions.

I also expect (and get) all parties in any of my projects to take a certain amount of responsilbility to ensuring the overall goal of the project is met - therefore even when it is not someones specific job they may have knowledge in a certain area which will reduce the risk of failure and they are expected to contribute that knowledge.

What I do not expect is for some half-assed jump up fu<k wit to come back with (in their view) smart assed comments which are derogatory to other members of the team just because they happen to not be employed by the client company.

As that will often result in me ripping your fe<king windpipe out you jumped up little muppets.

Wow, completely bug free code. I've met a few"half-assed jump up fu<k wit"'s that say they can do that. You must have hired them.

Interesting isn't that only two people in this thread have the same really warped opinion, whereas the consensus is that all code potentially has bugs and needs to be properly unit/integration/regression tested before the UAT team should get their grubby little hands on it.

Unless of course you are saying that your team of coders organised peer reviews and unit/integration/regression tests themselves and then releases the finished article to you on a silken cushion.

If not the latter, then I wonder what rapor you "think" you have with your developers vs what they actually think of you. Then again I would wonder if a megalomaniac would actually care.

You have intrigued me with your attitude, although not in a good way.

[TheFaQQer]

Wow, completely bug free code. I've met a few"half-assed jump up fu<k wit"'s that say they can do that. You must have hired them.

You just set "compile=nobugs" before you run it.

And then "database_run_mode=fast" to boost the performance.

HTH.

[PM-Junkie]

I expect (and I get) my developers to deliver code to me which works - in that I can test the system and do not get any form of error message.

I then expect the team taking delivery of the new code to do some acceptance testing to make sure that the application does what they expect it to do.

I expect both parties to take responsibiity for their actions.

I also expect (and get) all parties in any of my projects to take a certain amount of responsilbility to ensuring the overall goal of the project is met - therefore even when it is not someones specific job they may have knowledge in a certain area which will reduce the risk of failure and they are expected to contribute that knowledge.

What I do not expect is for some half-assed jump up fu<k wit to come back with (in their view) smart assed comments which are derogatory to other members of the team just because they happen to not be employed by the client company.

As that will often result in me ripping your fe<king windpipe out you jumped up little muppets.

I can't decide if you are taking the piss or are actually serious...but here's a friendly word of advice. You can delegate authority, you can't delegate responsibility. At the end of the day, if it's your project, it's your responsibility.