You had to be there to grasp the scale of Margaret Thatcher's revolution

[DodgyAgent]

It's not patronising, whole communities were thrown on the scrapheap, unemployment tripled under her. That's not the mark of good governance.

What you idiots dont understand is the mess that Thatcher inherited. This country was supporting a plethora of loss making industries nad people (probably like you) were voting into power the very people who were upholding this status quo (Tory and Labour). The country went bust and the IMF were called in. Part of the deal was to close down non profitable industries of which mining and the car industry were but a few.
It astonishes me that supposedly intelligent people like you are seemingly incapable of putting anything into any sort of contemporary perspective.

[DodgyAgent]

No, they followed it to the letter and this is where it ends up and this is where it would have ended up with a Tory government. How soon people forget the mess they made of the economy!.

er what mess was that? if I remember Thatcher rescued the UK economy after the IMF stepped in and John Major left Blair with a healthy economy which NL have subsequently F***ed up. Who are you? some little NL stooge paid by taxpayers money to invade forum boards to peddle pro NL propoganda?

[BrilloPad]

er what mess was that? if I remember Thatcher rescued the UK economy after the IMF stepped in and John Major left Blair with a healthy economy which NL have subsequently F***ed up. Who are you? some little NL stooge paid by taxpayers money to invade forum boards to peddle pro NL propoganda?

IMO thatcher left a healthy economy that Major messed up a bit. Blair/Brown then totally f**ked it.

[expat]

What you idiots dont understand is the mess that Thatcher inherited. This country was supporting a plethora of loss making industries nad people (probably like you) were voting into power the very people who were upholding this status quo (Tory and Labour). The country went bust and the IMF were called in. Part of the deal was to close down non profitable industries of which mining and the car industry were but a few.
It astonishes me that supposedly intelligent people like you are seemingly incapable of putting anything into any sort of contemporary perspective.

Strangely enough, although the purportedly factual claims of your post are not exactly true, the wild generalisations are, IMHO.

[DodgyAgent]

Strangely enough, although the purportedly factual claims of your post are not exactly true, the wild generalisations are, IMHO.

She was before my time, and you presumably were never here anyway

[Peoplesoft bloke]

IMO thatcher left a healthy economy that Major messed up a bit. Blair/Brown then totally f**ked it.

Exactly (more or less) - people have such short memories. To listen to some of the pathetic Tory automata on this board one would find it inconceivable that NuLabour inherited a deficit in 1997 from the oh so responsible Tories - but they did.

This isn't to excuse in any way the fact that they (Labour) subsequently pissed it all up the wall even more - but it really is pathetic to claim that the Tories are low tax and fiscally responsible when it flies in the face of the facts.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

She was before my time, and you presumably were never here anyway

I was here though and I agree.

[Cyberman]

Exactly (more or less) - people have such short memories. To listen to some of the pathetic Tory automata on this board one would find it inconceivable that NuLabour inherited a deficit in 1997 from the oh so responsible Tories - but they did.

This isn't to excuse in any way the fact that they (Labour) subsequently pissed it all up the wall even more - but it really is pathetic to claim that the Tories are low tax and fiscally responsible when it flies in the face of the facts.

They did inherit a deficit, but with a growing economy which allowed Labour to turn it quickly into a surplus with a multitude of stealth taxes which has been pissed against the wall. Labour always leave with a deficit and a totally fcuked economy. A BIG difference !!!

[DodgyAgent]

I was here though and I agree.

There is a fundamental difference in attitude between labour and Tory. Labour voters are natural collectivists driven by what they think is a sense of fairness, but is actually envy. They individually believe that no one is better than they are and therefore anyone displaying better than them credentials (public school, oxbridge, earning more money, supporting Thatcher etc etc) needs to be cut back.

Tories natural inclination is to encourage freedom of the individual to choose what they wish to do, and provided it is legal and that they take personal responsibility, to support them.

These are two embedded states of mind between two different types of people. The Tories problems are that they pander too much to many of the so called "morally right" socialist institutions, instead of being courageous and making the necessary reforms (as Thatcher did).

And of course it is natural that as part of the Tory psyche that they take responsibility for what they do (irrespective of how they tax and spend) and this is why they always run the economy far better than the "its someone else's problem" socialists.

[expat]

She was before my time, and you presumably were never here anyway

I left the UK on 8th May 1979