Originally posted by Mich the Tester
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Originally posted by deckster View PostYou mean there's an object to Agile? I thought it was just dreamt up by a load of lazy developers as a way to avoid writing documentation!Cats are evil.Comment
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Originally posted by swamp View PostGive me a clear, well written automated test over a stuffy document any day.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by swamp View PostGive me a clear, well written automated test over a stuffy document any day.
Give me a good tester over a unit test anyday of the week.Comment
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The GF's friend was a lawyer and quite frankly not a very good one, she sorted out child cases for the council, hardly a Petrocelli. When she found out what I earned she went to do a masters in IT and got a gig with an IT firm doing law software. She recently passed a Prince exam and the last time I spoke to her she was demanding a developer to be sacked. Truth be told is that she failed as a lawyer and as a developer, got a prince exam and now is in charge of a bunch of developers.Comment
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostTruth be told is that she failed as a lawyer and as a developer, got a prince exam and now is in charge of a bunch of developers.
And those who can neither manage nor work, they teach.I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.Comment
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostAn automated test is only as good as the developer that writes it. If you accept that your code is going to be 50% correct ( and that is why you are asked to write tests ) then what chance will your 50% correct developer be right in developing the tests?
Give me a good tester over a unit test anyday of the week.Cats are evil.Comment
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Originally posted by swamp View PostI'd like to see a tester perform a unit test!Comment
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Just goes to show what I have thought for years - developers think they are the mutt's nuts and everyone else is an idiot; testers think they are the mutt's nuts and everyone else is an idiot; support folk think they are the mutt's nuts and everyone else is an idiot and managers think that without them nobody else would be able to lift a finger. It's like a bunch of school kids arguing in a playground.
Is it any wonder IT has such a grim reputation in the business world?Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - EpicurusComment
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Originally posted by PM-Junkie View PostJust goes to show what I have thought for years - developers think they are the mutt's nuts and everyone else is an idiot; testers think they are the mutt's nuts and everyone else is an idiot; support folk think they are the mutt's nuts and everyone else is an idiot and managers think that without them nobody else would be able to lift a finger. It's like a bunch of school kids arguing in a playground.
Is it any wonder IT has such a grim reputation in the business world?
The reality is that often management is a way of removing unproductive people from the chain in the least painful way.I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.Comment
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