Are permie rates now surpassing contract rates?

[Sysman]

26k in central London hey? You can earn that driving a bus.

That's was I was seeing in 2003. The only people likely to apply were those who had already retired on on index-linked pension, with their mortgage paid off, or Bob Shadwadi.

[expat]

It is mandatory for this role to be FLUENT in ENGLISH, FRENCH & DUTCH!

Tee hee ... agree ... how could you have time for any IT having learnt all that?

By being Flemish? Or just living in Belgium for a while.

I'm fluent in English, French and German, for example, and I would think that quite a few people here are too. Especially anybody who is Swiss. Three languages is not abnormal.

[Drewster]

... Trend

[Mich the Tester]

Even if permies are paid twice as much I will not give up my dignity; I’d sooner buy a chip van and keep the dignity of self employment. Arguably permies deserve more than they get just for the amount of corporate BS they have to swallow.

[Ivor Bigun]

Even if permies are paid twice as much I will not give up my dignity; .

Sounds like sour grapes

[Drewster]

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Hey Brillo
I take it all back....... that was more fun than I expected!

[Mich the Tester]

A bit off-topic, but I saw this requirement recently:


wtf, is IT just a side-line with such a person?

Actually I think they should go the whole hog and ask for:

I'm fluent in English, French and Dutch. What are they offering?

[chef]

I'm fluent in English, French and Dutch. What are they offering?

a smoke and a pancake?

[Jubber]

Even if permies are paid twice as much I will not give up my dignity; I’d sooner buy a chip van and keep the dignity of self employment. Arguably permies deserve more than they get just for the amount of corporate BS they have to swallow.

Frite Kot ? I used to visit one on occasion near Brussels. The 'piquant' sauce was great. I sometimes went for the Frikadel Special (?sp) (slurp) Total junk food - but nice.

[Mich the Tester]

Sounds like sour grapes

Maybe it is, but when I left permiedom I decided I would never again subject myself to 360 degree assessments, Personal Development Plans, Company weekends, unpaid overtime, politicking for a puny pay rise, stupid squabbles about who gets to park closest to the front door, who gets a company vectra and who gets an astra, another bloody ‘business transformation programme’, ISO9001 Stalinists, office parties, mass redundancies when the quarterly figures are 0.000001% less than “analysts’ predictions”, second class rail travel and Sodexo canteens.

I've been poor before and to be honest it wasn't that bad compared to permiedom.