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Are permie rates now surpassing contract rates?

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    #11
    Originally posted by ziggy View Post
    I think this whole "recession" is just designed to re-distribute wealth ... now how the hell do I get on the receiving end?!
    Change your name to Ziggy Banking Group (ZBG) plc and apply for a government bailout, seems to work for some ...
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      #12
      ... then buy up a load of toxic mortgages ... reposess those homes and hey ... robert's your father's brother ... I like this plan <grin>

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        #13
        If anyone can point me to a permie IT job paying about £90K + benefits near Swindon I'm definately interested.

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          #14
          Back in January when I was finishing up my last gig I was offered a role at £360 per day to which I replied "nah, i'm not that desperate yet, I want to see what's out there" ... well just show me their hand now so I can bite it off ...

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            #15
            Originally posted by ziggy View Post
            PLEASE NOTE, THE RATE IS NOT A TYPING ERROR.
            The pope is a tard.

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              #16
              They're probably advertising these jobs at such low rates, so they can ship in a cheapie contractor from abroad. When applying for the permit they can say "well we did advertise <shows advert> but no-one suitable applied".

              Permie rates are getting ridiculously low too. Saw this today, for a job in central London:

              Network Engineer / Systems Administrator
              Central London
              £26,000 plus Mobile Phone, Travel Card

              Are you an experienced Network Engineer? A young organisation with offices in London and Bristol, offering network consultancy and support as well as Enterprise level application development and integration, is looking for a Network Engineer / Systems Administrator.

              Working within this expanding company's relaxed, friendly and dynamic team, the Network Engineer / Systems Administrator will require excellent presentation and communications skills.

              You will need extensive experience of setting up and administering Microsoft networks, as well as strong knowledge of Cisco firewalls and VPN. Knowledge of Active Directory and Exchange is crucial as is proven experience of supporting client machines both on-site and remotely.

              A working knowledge of SQL Server and IIS would be an advantage, along with an interest in application development and the programming environment. The right candidate will work well under their own initiative in a friendly and relaxed atmosphere.

              Excellent customer facing skills are essential as account handling will be an important part of the role. You will also use those skills to build up and manage the existing customer base.

              Applicants who can bring corporate business with them (e.g. people currently freelancing) will have a distinct advantage.
              26k in central London hey? You can earn that driving a bus.
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                #17
                Originally posted by MrMark View Post
                Applicants who can bring corporate business with them (e.g. people currently freelancing) will have a distinct advantage.


                What kind of numpty would pass their own clients onto a company taking them on as an employee? They must be having a laugh.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                  If anyone can point me to a permie IT job paying about £90K + benefits near Swindon I'm definately interested.
                  Chippenham near enough?

                  http://www.jobserve.com/JobListing.a...1A9D&lid=87182

                  If it does turn out to be real let me know and I'll apply too...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                    A bit off-topic, but I saw this requirement recently:

                    It is mandatory for this role to be FLUENT in ENGLISH, FRENCH & DUTCH!
                    wtf, is IT just a side-line with such a person?

                    Actually I think they should go the whole hog and ask for:
                    Methinks they are looking for a Belgian national.
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                      #20
                      Applicants who can bring corporate business with them (e.g. people currently freelancing) will have a distinct advantage.
                      Sounds a lot like "just need two references before......."
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