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    #51
    There are many god's to those who want to believe this. Don't you think that’s because there are so many "believed" religions, there must be something in it?

    This is bit of a long read, and no, I am not preaching

    Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was sent to invite people to God and to teach them how to perform the task for which they were created, namely to worship Him. Many of the people whom he addressed had a hazy idea of God. Some did believe in Him, though they associated other lesser gods with Him, but a few of them were downright atheists, or materialists, whose creed was, 'we live and we die and nothing causes our death except Time.' [Jathiya 45: 24] Before inviting such atheists to God one must first convince them that there is such being. "What reason do you have for believing that there is a God?" This, logically, is the first question which a theistic view of life should address itself to. The Qur'anic answer to it is given in the following words:

    " . . were they created out of nothing? Or were they the creations (of themselves) or did they create the heavens and earth." [Tur, 52: 36]

    The Qur'an is here saying that for everything like man that has a beginning in time, there are only three ways of explaining how it came to be.

    a. Either it is created, or made, or caused by nothing at all i.e. it came out of nothing.
    b. Or it is the creator of itself.
    c. Or it has a creator, cause, or maker, outside itself.

    The third possibility is not mentioned in the quoted verse but it is understood because the verse is addressed to people who deny the existence of a creator and it is telling them that if there is no creator then only two possibilities remain. But the Qur'an does not go into the details of showing why the first two positions are untenable. Clarity of expression often convinces people of the truth or untruth of a statement. Mental seeing here, more than physical seeing, is believing (or rejecting).

    A thesis is therefore untenable if it means the denial of any maker or cause whatsoever. But admitting that this is indeed so, one might still wonder why should that cause or maker or creator be the God to whom Muhammad was inviting people? Why shouldn't it be one of the many other gods in whom people believe or why shouldn't it even be the "matter" of the materialists? Almost the entire Qur'an deals with this question but we shall do our best to give a brief answer which would provide the reader with the basics of the Qur'anic position. In a nutshell the answer is as follows: to explain the coming into being of temporal things, the creator (or cause or maker) for which we are looking, must (logically must) have the attribute of the God to whom Muhammad invites us. How so?

    The creator must be of a different nature from the things created because, if he is of the same nature as they are, he will have to be temporal and therefore need a maker. It follows that "nothing is like Him." [Shura, XLII: 11] If the maker is not temporal then he must be eternal. But if he is eternal, he cannot be caused, and if nothing causes him to come into existence, nothing causes him to continue to exist, which means that he must be self sufficient. And if he does not depend on anything for the continuance of his existence, then that existence can have no end. The creator is therefore eternal and everlasting: "He is the first and the last." [Hadid, LVII: 3] "All that dwells upon the earth is perishing, yet still abides the Face of thy Lord, majestic, splendid." [Rahman, LV: 26-27]

    "He knows what is in land and sea; not a leaf falls, but He knows it. Not a grain in the earth's shadow, not a thing fresh or withered, but it is in a Book Manifest. It is He who recalls you by night, and He knows what you work by day." [An'am, Vl: 59-60]

    God is living:

    "There is no God but He, the living, the everlasting. Slumber seizes Him not, neither sleep; to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. Who is there that shall intercede with Him save by His leave? He knows what lies before them and what is after them, and they comprehend not anything of His knowledge save such as He wills. His throne comprises the heavens and earth; the preserving of them oppresses Him not; He is the All-high, the All-Glorious. [Baqara, II: 255]

    God is not only willing and powerful, He is also Just in that He does not punish a sinner for more than his crime. He is merciful and His mercy, in the words of the Prophet "overcame his punishment." So He does not punish us for whatever we do, but forgives and erases our sins, and magnifies and multiplies our good deeds.

    To the worshipers of man-made objects it says:

    "Do you worship what you have carved out and God created you and what you make?" [Saffat, XXXVIl: 95]

    and

    "... have they taken unto themselves others beside Him who create nothing, who are themselves created, who cannot protect them, nor can they protect themselves."

    [A`raf, Vll: 191-192]

    To the worshipers of heavenly bodies it relates as a reminder the story of Abraham:

    When night outspread over him he saw a star and said, 'This is my Lord.' But when it set he said, 'l love not the setters.' When he saw the moon rising, he said, 'This is my Lord.' But when it set he said, 'If my Lord does not guide me I shall surely be of the people gone astray.' when he saw the sun rising, he said, 'This is my Lord; this is greater!' But when it set he said, 'O my people, surely I am quit of what you associate with God. I have turned my face to Him who originated the heavens and the earth, a man of pure faith; I am not of the idolaters.' [An`am, Vl: 76-79]

    And when, later on, the Prophet comes into contact with the Jews and Christians, the Qur'an condemns their belief in the divine nature of human-beings.

    It then goes on to explain to the Christians the real nature of Jesus.

    "Truly, the likeness of Jesus in God's sight is as Adam's likeness; He created him of dust, then said He unto him 'Be!' and he was." [Aali `Imran, Ill: 59]

    For someone to take something as a god, it is not necessary that he should acknowledge it as such or worship it in a ritualistic way; it is enough for him to follow its dictates obediently, or devote to it acts or have towards it feelings which should be devoted to or felt towards God only. There are many such unacknowledged gods.

    "Hast thou seen him who has taken his caprice to be his God? Wilt thou be a guardian over him?" [Furqan,] XXV: 43]

    "They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords apart from God, and the Messiah, Mary's son, and they were commanded to serve but one God." [Tawba, IX: 31]

    Thus to be a Muslim - i.e.. to surrender oneself to God— it is necessary to believe in the unity of God in the sense of His being the only creator, Preserver and Nourisher. But this belief - later on called tawhid ar-rububiyya - is not enough. In fact many of the idolaters did know and believe that it is the supreme God alone who can do all this. But that was not enough to make them Muslims. To tawhid ar-rububiyya one must add tawhid al uluhiyya i.e. one must acknowledge the fact that it is this God alone who deserves to be worshiped, and therefore abstain from directing any of one's acts of worship to someone or something else. In the Qur'an the argument for tawhid al-uluhiyya is based on tawhid ar-rububiyya i.e. if it is God alone who creates and controls everything why then and to what end do you worship others beside Him?

    "O you men, serve your Lord who created you, and those that were before you; haply so you will be god-fearing; who assigned to you the earth for a couch, and heaven for an edifice, and sent down out of heaven water, wherewith He brought forth fruits for your provision; so set not up rivals to God wittingly." [al-Baqara, Il: 21-22]

    Having known the true God, man is called upon to affirm what he knows i.e. to believe and have faith in God, and not allow any ulterior motives to induce him to deny a fact which he knows to be true.

    "... that they who have been given knowledge may know it is the truth from thy Lord and so believe in it, and thus their hearts become humble unto him." [Hajj, XXII: 54]

    "But when our signs came to them visibly, they said, "This is a manifest sorcery;' end they denied them, though their souls acknowledged them, wrongfully and out of pride." [Naml, XXVII: 14]

    A believer loves and is grateful to God for His bounties, but being aware of the fact that his good deeds, whether mental or physical, are far from being commensurate with Divine favors, he is always anxious lest because of his sins God should withhold from him some of these favors or punish him in the hereafter. He therefore fears Him, surrenders himself to Him, and serves Him with great humility.

    "Your God is one God, so to Him surrender. And give thou good tidings unto the humble who, when God is mentioned, their hearts quake." [Anfal, ayah: 2]

    One cannot be in such a mental state, without being almost all the time mindful of God. Remembering God is thus the life-force of faith, without which it fades and might even wither away. So,

    "The faithful are those who remember God, standing and sitting, and on their sides." [Aal `Imran, Ill: 191]

    The Qur'an therefore prescribes and describes, in great detail ways and means of helping man to remember God and keep his faith alive. All Qur'anic and Prophetic injunctions and prohibitions which extend to all aspects of human life acts of worship and personal matters, social relations, political order, etc., etc. - are designed to put man in a state which is conducive to God's remembrance.

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      #52
      The fact that there are so many wars in the World is proof enough that there is no God. (Praise be upon him even though he doesn't exist!)

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        #53
        Originally posted by AZZIK View Post
        There are many god's to those who want to believe this. Don't you think that’s because there are so many "believed" religions, there must be something in it?

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        No. It means humans are still at an early (childlike) stage of development.

        As for the rest of your post I don't see the point in reading a centuries old text written by some not very well educated human beings (in the modern sense) who pass their random thoughts off as "God's".
        Just like the Bible.
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #54
          why do the politically correct atheists hijack these debates to make uninformed ignorant attacks against Christianity? stick to the topic please

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            #55
            Originally posted by contractor79 View Post
            why do the politically correct atheists hijack these debates to make uninformed ignorant attacks against Christianity? stick to the topic please

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              #56
              Originally posted by contractor79 View Post
              why do the politically correct atheists hijack these debates to make uninformed ignorant attacks against Christianity? stick to the topic please
              Next.
              Hard Brexit now!
              #prayfornodeal

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                #57
                Originally posted by up4it View Post
                My main point is don't believe all the propaganda whether that is from the British, Chinese, American or any other government.

                Use your grey matter to form your own opinion!
                As long as you accept the fact that you could of course be wrong, otherwise your opinion may become a belief which in turn could become a religion
                Growing old is mandatory
                Growing up is optional

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                  #58
                  C79: I am deeply offended that u think I am politically correct!

                  Uninformed I can live with!

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by up4it View Post
                    C79: I am deeply offended that u think I am politically correct!
                    So am I. If I was politically correct I would describe C79 as mentally retarded rather than a cretin.

                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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                      #60
                      Is it a faux pas to eat greens with spaghetti ?

                      if not, I vote for the flying spaghetti monster, peas be upon him





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